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    Krag Serial Help

    Hi All -

    Came across one at a good price ( and a 1898 Trapdoor ) I picked it up - I have pics and can post - trying to ID serial # 122033 or could be 122633 - I will qualify that when I pick it back up.

    Tried to see if I could ID an issuance - but not getting anything.... Hoping someone can point me in a direction for more research.

    Thanks for any insight....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickjc View Post
    trying to ID serial # 122033 or could be 122633
    Post ahead, it'll help to identify.
    Regards, Jim

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    U.S. Model 1898 rifle, #122033, and rifle, #122633, were both assembled at Springfield Armory, around August, 1898.

    Neither serial number appears in the Springfield Research Services data - (SRS list of Kragicon serial numbers found in official documents).

    Numbers close to your mentioned serial numbers were issued to the 3rd Kentucky Vol. Inf. in 1898 and 1899.
    Note - A serial # being 'close' to known rifles, but, not recorded, means nothing.
    It actually pretty much guarantees your Krag had a different fate or history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butlersrangers View Post
    Note - A serial # being 'close' to known rifles, but, not recorded, means nothing.
    It actually pretty much guarantees your Kragicon had a different fate or history.
    Too many think they were all issued in a long string of serial numbers and they all fall together. It's too much of a reach to hope that they're related by numeric order in military service. I never did see a sequential group of rifles issued, even when we got the new service rifles in the '80s.
    Regards, Jim

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    Here are his pics for all in clear so the forum saves them...
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    Regards, Jim

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    U.S. Krags were not assembled in numerical order. After 125 machining operations, Heat-Treated receivers were inspected, numbered, and marked, went into parts bins, and were pulled out rather randomly for assembly into finished arms.
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    Thank you Both ! When I pick it up I will take some HI RES photo's if that is desirable...

    It is one of those things I couldn't turn down, brass, dies, ammo and rifle etc.
    Thanks ! NickJC North western hills
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    The three section cleaning-rod and oil container in the butt-trap are a $50-$60 bonus.

    FWIW - When possible, U.S. Kragicon rifles and carbines were cleaned with one-piece brass barracks-rods.

    The three-section steel rods were a field expedient. Soldiers had to 'pair up' and combine four sections to properly clean the 30" rifle barrel.

    Carbines, oddly, were only supplied with two rod sections, although, the butt-trap had three rod holes. (Same machines were used at Springfield Armory to drill rifle and carbine stocks).

    Troopers had to pair-up to have three rod-sections to fully clean their 22" carbine barrels.
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    Thanks for the info..... so much to always learn about every type rifle....

    I suspect that is what makes it part of the fun...

    Hope to pick it up today...


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