Thought It Was The Right Moment...

[Ovidio]

Hi all,


I just received this wonderful, frightening book.
I read it as a teenager at school. We had a wonderful English teacher, Mr. Conway. A crazy, genial Irish guy.
I think he has been one of the most important characters in my life, because he taught me to look at life with a very ironic eye, but to never back-up from your beliefs, no matter what happens.
This crappy Coronavirus has made me think a lot and so I thought that it was time to read 1984 again.
And I'll have my son read it too, because I want him to get that creepy feeling that comes when you see how controlled they are in the book. And I also want him to understand what is going on with or "democracy" during this crises.
While at my time (mid-80ies) we would have never thought of being constantly monitored, now it is real. And we are bombarded by propaganda all the time, on all media.
Sometimes I talk (or my wife or friends of ours) about something and when we surf the Internet again with our phone, we find commercials of what we were talking about.
That book was pure prophecy, and I want to read it now, while feeling so...enraged.
Having it again, also my daughters will read it when they'll have the age.

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[CINDERS]

Big brother has been with us a long time and getting bigger by the day.

The latest one I have been watching is A.I as if and when we cross that void and robotics become self aware then as that movie depicts may see us as the virus and eliminate us, allot of people have scoffed at different prophecies that book Ovidio is not that far removed from the truth we live now.
At least when I read my WWI - WWII history books I do not get a creepy feeling!

[Surpmil]

The future is now friend. China's 'social credit system' straight out of Orwell's '1984'

And the same companies who provide our "services", forged their chains.

The key is in the lock, the tumblers have aligned and the hands are waiting to turn it.

Keep reading.

[Gil Boyd]

I look at these guys like ORWELL and of course NOSTRADAMUS. They must have had sad lives when you read their stuff, much of which has come true.
Was it that obvious and the stuff thats coming or been on time???
I'm an inventor of Police & Military equipment, I wish I had that sort of foresight

[Ovidio]

The future is now friend. China's 'social credit system' straight out of Orwell's '1984'

And the same companies who provide our "services", forged their chains.

The key is in the lock, the tumblers have aligned and the hands are waiting to turn it.

Keep reading.

Horrendous...
My Grandpa alway warned against the "yellow danger"...
He knew them well and was convinced that they would have come to this.

[Ovidio]

The future is now friend. China's 'social credit system' straight out of Orwell's '1984'

And the same companies who provide our "services", forged their chains.

The key is in the lock, the tumblers have aligned and the hands are waiting to turn it.

Keep reading.

Got it and read it before 1984. With Mr. Conway;-)

[Surpmil]

Big brother has been with us a long time and getting bigger by the day.

The latest one I have been watching is A.I as if and when we cross that void and robotics become self aware then as that movie depicts may see us as the virus and eliminate us, allot of people have scoffed at different prophecies that book Ovidio is not that far removed from the truth we live now.
At least when I read my WWI - WWII history books I do not get a creepy feeling!

I find I am less and less interested in reading about what amounts to historical trivia. That "creepy feeling" or however one wants to describe it, is like pain in the body: a warning to pay attention before a crisis is reached.

[CINDERS]

what amounts to historical trivia

Betchya the 50 odd million who perished in WWII or the 40 million in WWI did not see it as trivia, to be brutally frank we have no friking idea what the spooks have on us nor will we ever know.
Nor what they have in the way of weapons to bring about our demise!
Speculation is good it keeps everyone guessing which is what they want I mean for years they have had satelites that can just about read the newspaper siting on your lap in the park!
They all got narky when Russia tested that killer satellite not long ago I wonder how long the USA has had one up there delivered by the space shuttles there were plenty of classified military launches!

In my view one thing we have never learned from history with all the wars and that is to get along with each other for there will always be the rich, poor, starving, well fed, care, don't care people on this planet.
If there is an entity up there looking down on this sorrowful effort we call earth then they must surely question why the heck did they build the joint in the first place!

[Eaglelord17]

Betchya the 50 odd million who perished in WWII or the 40 million in WWI did not see it as trivia, to be brutally frank we have no friking idea what the spooks have on us nor will we ever know.
Nor what they have in the way of weapons to bring about our demise!
Speculation is good it keeps everyone guessing which is what they want I mean for years they have had satelites that can just about read the newspaper siting on your lap in the park!
They all got narky when Russia tested that killer satellite not long ago I wonder how long the USA has had one up there delivered by the space shuttles there were plenty of classified military launches!

In my view one thing we have never learned from history with all the wars and that is to get along with each other for there will always be the rich, poor, starving, well fed, care, don't care people on this planet.
If there is an entity up there looking down on this sorrowful effort we call earth then they must surely question why the heck did they build the joint in the first place!

Don't worry, I believe they have tons of data, but I also believe in Government incompetence so that data is likely poorly stored and very inaccessible to sift though, likely requiring a lot of time and manpower to happen, which they are unlikely to dedicate unless they have to.

[Surpmil]

Betchya the 50 odd million who perished in WWII or the 40 million in WWI did not see it as trivia, to be brutally frank we have no friking idea what the spooks have on us nor will we ever know.
Nor what they have in the way of weapons to bring about our demise!
Speculation is good it keeps everyone guessing which is what they want I mean for years they have had satelites that can just about read the newspaper siting on your lap in the park!
They all got narky when Russia tested that killer satellite not long ago I wonder how long the USA has had one up there delivered by the space shuttles there were plenty of classified military launches!

In my view one thing we have never learned from history with all the wars and that is to get along with each other for there will always be the rich, poor, starving, well fed, care, don't care people on this planet.
If there is an entity up there looking down on this sorrowful effort we call earth then they must surely question why the heck did they build the joint in the first place!

The lessons are not lost on me, my point was that our efforts are better spent on trying to understand why and how we got into this mess, and whose efforts have been devoted to getting us there, and why.

This does not diminish the importance of the events of the past, it's more a question of where one chooses to spend one's time now. Those of us who have a decent knowledge of some aspects of history, would be wise to flesh out our knowledge of the "flash and bang" with more knowledge of the backgrounds, the deeper causative factors and players, how they are acting today, and to what ends.

I suppose to some people that will sound alarmingly "conspiratorial", but as FDR said, "

In politics nothing happens by accident. If something happens a certain way, you can bet it was planned that way

Or as Abraham Lincoln put it:

We cannot absolutely know that these exact adaptations are the result of pre-concert, but when we see a lot of framed timbers, different portions of which we know have been gotten out at different times and places, and by different workmen; and when we see these timbers joined together, and see they exactly make the frame of a house or a mill, all the tenons and mortises exactly fitting, and all the lengths and proportions of the different pieces exactly adapted to their respective places, and not a piece too many or too few.... in such a case we feel it impossible not to believe that all understood one another from the beginning and all worked upon a common plan or draft drawn before the first blow was struck.