6.5 x 52 Carcano Guard / Anti-riot cartridge

[Bruce_in_Oz]

Just found two of these in a box of "Mystery" ammo from the clearance of a family deceased estate. The owner demised almost a decade ago and his widow and offspring finally got to the bottom of a box of "mixed stuff'.

There were a few other cartridges in there:

8mm French Balle D, 4 33

Kynoch 9.3 x 62 SP

.303Mk Vl, CAC 5 17

9mm Para, dnf 4 41 (RWS Stadeln plant)

A ".270 Win" made from a .30-06 that has an odd head setup. Deep "ring" in the head; very like a Carcano or Berthier, and tiny "R A 42" stamps, so I am guessing that the heavy annulus is ex factory. (Remington??)

What appears to be a .577 Snider cartridge; one-piece, deep drawn, "balloon-head" style. NO head-stamp detectable. No bullet or powder, but has an unfired primer in the head. Factory "ready to fill" case?

I'm not much of a cartridge collector, more of a cartridge "consumer', but I never discard "odd" ammo, especially "free" odd ammo.

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[RCS]

The 6,5 Carcano muti ball cartridges are common with variations as well as your 8mm Lebel.

The 9,3x62 mm is still be used and even been tried on M1 rifles during the past few years

The 303 Mark VI was still being manufactured during WW1 and is common.

I believe your 270 might be Browning maufacture as they did remove their headstamp from alot of their production commerical cartridges (I have some 30-30 with the headstamp removed)

photo shows Italian 8x59mm m/g cartridge and 6,5 Carcano muti ball cartridgeAttachment 111432

[Ovidio]

We call the 8 mm 8 Breda. The other one is called Cartuccia a mitraglia M. 91-9.
Not easy to find anymore.

[Bruce McAskill]

Yes the RA 42 is a Remington 30-06 WW2 case. The ring around the primer is a hold over from WW1 contract with Great Britain for machine gun ammo. Remington just seemed to have dusted off the old dies and started using them again in WW2.

[green]

The heavy ring crimp on the 30-06/270 was used on 30-06 ammo made for use in the Marlin M1917 Aircraft MG. The heavy primer crimp was necessary due to the violent action of this arm.
This ammo was made during WW1 and later in WW2 for the M1917 Marlins lend leased to Britain.

[Bruce_in_Oz]

Thanks, everybody.

It's always educational to drop by here.