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    That's an Old Soldier Sahib!

    I've got one the same from the same year that had an FTR in '32 IIRC.

    The "Z" on the Nock's Form is probably a sentencing mark; I forget whether it's "BLR" or "BER": "Beyond Local Repair/Beyond Economic Repair". In other words, repair or disposal.

    (The use of "economic" might throw some of us North Americans: "economical" is more our usage.)

    Edit: I see that had already been mentioned by Alan d'Enfield.
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    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." W.L.S.C..

    "None need deceive a people determined to deceive themselves."

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    Amazing how it made it's way here

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    It is a paper weight as is.
    If you do build it into a complete rifle render it innocuous/inoperable then hang it on the wall.


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    Sentenced for what though? That is what separates the wall hangers from the "restorables".
    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." W.L.S.C..

    "None need deceive a people determined to deceive themselves."

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    I took a deep breath, emptied my pocket and have enjoyed the search for cheaper parts and now that I ordered my last part (protector nut) life is good. New barrel soon and I will have brought life to a neglected piece of history......too dramatic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    Sentenced for what though? That is what separates the wall hangers from the "restorables".
    You don't know and very few people have the required gauges to measure with. Your face not mine your kids or friends not mine.

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    Soon it will breath back to life and do what it was made for. Throw lead down range

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay2020 View Post
    Soon it will breath back to life and do what it was made for. Throw lead down range
    Please reconsider for your own safety and the safety of those on the range around you. A "Z" marked rifle should be treated like a DP rifle if you do not have the gauges and experience to check every part of the firearm. The rifle was marked that way by an armorer because it was going to require extensive repair to be functional and safe. If the repair was done the Z would have been struck. You say it had a cut barrel - is the Z marked barrel a replacement? If it is the action should be good and you just need to obtain a barrel. If it is the original barrel then the entire arm is suspect.
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    i have replaced many parts to include a valid barrel. fear not my gunsmith has been with me and will have the final go or no go after replacing it

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    Before removing the existing and original barrel, you or your gunsmith could check the headspace; that might provide a clue.

    I expect if the rifle was actually unsafe it would have been scrapped rather than sold off, but practices probably varied in different times and places.

    It appears to me to have been civilian proofed AFTER being sentenced "Z", so it stood the proofing and the Z didn't cause the Proof House to condemn the rifle. We can draw our own conclusions from that.

    From the rounding over of the Nock's Form etc. it appears to have had a polish and reblue after leaving military service as well, and that long ago.
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    Last edited by Surpmil; 11-22-2020 at 10:28 PM.
    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." W.L.S.C..

    "None need deceive a people determined to deceive themselves."

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