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    Oiler Tube for Colt .45 1911 ?

    Looked at a Un-marked Oiler tube today listed by a well known Militaria seller in Europe.
    Described as being used Pre- Post WWI for Colt .45 1911.
    Appeared to be about 3" + or - in length. Diameter looked as though it could fit in a .45 cartridge belt loop.
    Single Knurled cap diameter was a bit wider than diameter of the tube.
    Full length Dip stick with a pointed tip attached to the cap.
    Single compartment, finish is nickel plated over brass.

    Not the 2 compartment / 2 screw cap stock oiler like seen on the 03, Garandicon, and I don't believe it was one of the many types made for the Enfields.

    Waiting on picture, will post them when received.

    For now, Main question is:

    Has Anyone ever heard of, or seen a Oiler Tube for the Colt 1911 ?

    Thank You
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    Never even heard of it.
    Regards, Jim

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    Sounds like a US Kragicon oiler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by browningautorifleicon View Post
    Never even heard of it.
    Me either Jim,
    A lot of us have bought carbine parts from a Frenchicon seller named Nenel3 on Ebay. Good legit parts. I seen what he has advertised as a Oiler for the .45 on a European site. Looks something like the carbine oiler. But I believe longer and has a wider diameter cap. I started searching because I'd seen a very early 4 digit Inland M1 carbine with what looked to be the same type oiler because of the over sized cap. So was investigating.

    Sellers translated Description:

    RARE REGULATORY BRASS OIL BOX FOR PA 1911 (COLT 45).

    SIMILAR IN SHAPES AND DIMENSIONS, EXCEPT THE PLUG, TO THE FUTURE OIL BOX OF THE USM1 RIFLE.

    In the Q and A area he was asked about it's time usage... Which he answered Pre - Post WWI.

    Quote Originally Posted by green View Post
    Sounds like a US Krag oiler.
    Green,
    I found a Krag Oiler listed at Sarco. I believe You nailed it. It sure looks the same, just a different style checkering on the cap.

    Nenel3's Listing picture:





    HUILIER LAITON COLT 45 TIR,TAR USA - Kit de nettoyage et entretien (471735)

    Sarco Krag Oiler:

    Krag Oiler - SARCO, Inc

    The Inland was so early with the I cut oiler slot it got me thinking about how they initially had planned to use a Oiler shaped like that I cut that would have a fixed base and twist off top with diameters bigger than the tube diameter.... like this ( I ). Thought I had seen a 'Compromised Prototype' where the wide base was dropped.

    Also was wondering if it was another compromised T Top Oiler to use in the carbine, a variation so to speak of the M2 Hyde-Inland sub machine gun. See picture attachment:


    I was hoping I'd follow up and find something new and exciting. But I'll call it a win because I can quit chasing it.

    Only other question is the oiler in the Inland was marked ( I ) on top, now curious who made it. I'll try the Krag boys up top. Can sure burn up some time being curious... Hell I've never even held a Krag !

    I'll pass this information on to the owner of that Inland. Not sure how that will go over

    Thanks Again, Sure Appreciate the help.

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    Update

    The Seller, whose 1st name I couldn't recall, contacted me back after I sent him a message that this Oiler was most likely for a Krag. I included a link so he could see the picture of the Krag oiler on the Sarco site:

    Krag Oiler - SARCO, Inc

    My sent Message:
    Forgot your name, Is it Andre or Michel ?
    I seen your listing on NaturaBuy Object: 471735. I'm not a member there, so I'm trying contact here.
    Wanted to tell you that the Oiler: COLT 45 TIR BRASS OIL, TAR USAicon, appears to be a Oiler for the US Krag Rifle.
    You can see another by looking at this link: Krag Oiler - SARCO, Inc

    I hope this is helpful.
    Cheers,
    Charlie

    His Response:

    Hi Charlie,
    my name is André
    the Krag oiler is longer than those one's ...
    Any way thank you
    best regards
    André

    DID I BLOW IT BECAUSE I HAD US ON MY MIND ?? ??
    This all started out because I had a M1 Carbine Oiler on my mind !
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    Quote Originally Posted by painter777 View Post
    Has Anyone ever heard of, or seen a Oiler Tube for the Colt 1911 ?
    Try googling it and you get a completely different type of oiler, the banjo type.

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    That is not the Kragicon 'Oil" Bottle.

    The top of the Krag 'oiler' body has a more prominent flange, that projects inward, to narrow the actual 'threaded' opening to about 1/4 of an inch diameter.

    The Krag accessory oil container is about 3 1/4 inches long, including the cap, and the body diameter is .460".

    Originally the 'oiler' was intended to fit into one of the .30-40 cartridge loops, on the Krag Mills Belt. It contained 'Cosmic Oil' (cosmolene).



    Later, the Krag (stock) 'butt-trap' chamber was enlarged to carry the oil bottle, below the three cleaning-rod sections.
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