World at War: 700 Yards Mayhem - British Sniper vs German Sniper - No4 MKI T!

[Rob Ski]

1944, Allies are pushing against Nazi Germany! British Snipers often are on the tip of the spear, leading attacks against Germans.
So how their main Sniper rifle, No.4 MK. I (T) worked? I'm taking on 13 different size targets all the way from 100 to 700 Yards! Let's see what this rifle really can do!
As a counter sniper I'm going to use German BYF High Turret Sniper, what could go wrong?
I hope you will enjoy watching this video!

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[champ0608]

That's a fun video and a cool channel you guys have there. I've been a subscriber since day one. Keep it up!

[Rob Ski]

That's a fun video and a cool channel you guys have there. I've been a subscriber since day one. Keep it up!

Thank you for watching! Those old work horses deserve all the attention they can get.

[30Three]

A great rifle and excellent shooting, well done.
I have a box of that Winchetser red label ammo; marked for synchronised guns on the box. Incredibly reliable for 80 year old ammo.
I won't be shooting it though!

[Bob Womack]

I loved you video and your enthusiasm, Rob! Where are you from? Your English is EXCELLENT.

Bob

[Rob Ski]

Thank you Bob. And to answer to your question, I'm from Liverpool of course! Just joking, I was born in Poland, but I'm US Citizen living in MO.

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A great rifle and excellent shooting, well done.
I have a box of that Winchetser red label ammo; marked for synchronised guns on the box. Incredibly reliable for 80 year old ammo.
I won't be shooting it though!

Thank you for watching. And yes, this is some fascinating story about this ammo. So the ammo was designated for RAF, also, it says "for synchronized guns", but then we have "not for use in the airplanes". We discussed this at gunboards and post by Damien was really interesting: "Red label is definitely the right stuff for air service, but why put "NOT FOR USE IN AIRCRAFT" on the cartons? Without wanting to sound too pedantic, there is a mistake in the packaging somewhere along the line. The label in the photo is a new made replacement, so either it is mistaken, or the original Winchester printed carton label is incorrect. I am not doubting the photographic evidence as such, but there is a logical explanation that is probably a good story, if only I knew it."

[Alan de Enfield]

.......... but there is a logical explanation that is probably a good story, if only I knew it."

The quality of the Winchester ammunition was very inconsistent, (size varations) resulting in jamming and blockages. It is not so difficult to clear a jam in your Enfield but not so easy when the gun is on the wing of your Spitfire.

Investigations into shot-down aircraft (and the loss of the pilots) showed that their guns were jammed and those had all been using Winchester 'for use in aircraft' ammunition.

Subsequently all Winchester manufactured 303 was banned from use in aircraft, and only allowed to be used for "ground use" and for some early batches only for "ground practice" use.

Now you know the 'story'.

[Rob Ski]

The quality of the Winchester ammunition was very inconsistent, (size varations) resulting in jamming and blockages. It is not so difficult to clear a jam in your Enfield but not so easy when the gun is on the wing of your Spitfire.

Investigations into shot-down aircraft (and the loss of the pilots) showed that their guns were jammed and those had all been using Winchester 'for use in aircraft' ammunition.

Subsequently all Winchester manufactured 303 was banned from use in aircraft, and only allowed to be used for "ground use" and for some early batches only for "ground practice" use.

Now you know the 'story'.

Thank you very much Alan! Mystery solved!

[Alan de Enfield]

...........but there is a logical explanation that is probably a good story, if only I knew it."

Just a little more 'back-story' to the problems with American manufactured ammunition :

During WW1 around 50% of the 303 supplied was deemed 'not fit for use' and was relegated to practice use only, add in the fact that by 1916 the 3 American suppliers to Britain were over 400,000,000 (400 million) rounds below their promised delivery rate.
The decision was taken to cancel all contracts with the US at the earliest opportunity.

[Rob Ski]

Just a little more 'back-story' to the problems with American manufactured ammunition :

During WW1 around 50% of the 303 supplied was deemed 'not fit for use' and was relegated to practice use only, add in the fact that by 1916 the 3 American suppliers to Britain were over 400,000,000 (400 million) rounds below their promised delivery rate.
The decision was taken to cancel all contracts with the US at the earliest opportunity.

That is very cool info. Now, so it looks like USA didn't have a good track record since WWI with British 303. Going back into the 40's, seems that Winchester again chocked and their RAF ammo was downgraded to "non aircraft use only". However, we think this is mainly because of the poor quality control on primers, fear of having dud round on the aircraft, right? Because performance wise, not talking about shooting, but from the doppler radar, rounds were consistent on the velocity and SD: 17fps is not bad for mass produced ammo.
I have one more question, accuracy wise, how is the Winchester ammo comparing to regular British surplus production?