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    What do you think happened to this Type 38 Carbine

    Good evening everyone,

    So I picked this carbine up yesterday at an estate sell after its previous owner sadly passed away. His son told me that his father had owned this rifle for the past half century or so. So what is the good on the rifle: Mum is intact, all numbers match, original cleaning rod, not import marked and in overall very nice shape but I have not cleaned it yet. The bad: as you will see in the picture there is a massive gash in the side of the stock. By looking at the wood it looks to be a very old point of damage. I know there is literally no way to know what happened but what do you all think? What are your thoughts? Could it be shrapnel and a bring back? Could it be an angry wife who came home early and grabbed the closest thing in the corner and started swinging? What say you?

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    Can anyone point to a site or any resource that I can use to figure out a production date for this rifle? Thanks in advance.
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    Looks like a ricochet going sideways. Could have been a chunk of anything blown at high speed...
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    Looks like a ricochet going sideways. Could have been a chunk of anything blown at high speed..
    I agree, Just thought it would be interesting to speculate. If only these things could talk.

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    I thought exactly the same thing as soon as I saw the damage.
    Very nice rifle!!!
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    A 4th series Carbine made at Chigusa factory of the Nagoya Army Arsenal. Probably 1937.

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    I saw a Nambu lmg with the cooling fins grooved lengthwise by a bullet and with fragment pockmarks on the right side of the receiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jangle View Post
    A 4th series Carbine made at Chigusa factory of the Nagoya Army Arsenal. Probably 1937.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiriaq View Post
    I saw a Nambu lmg with the cooling fins grooved lengthwise by a bullet and with fragment pockmarks on the right side of the receiver.
    I think weapons like these are super interesting. I know it can never be said for certain but id rather have something like this with history than the immaculate never been outside example. The fun in milsurp collecting for me is the history and these pieces show their history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ovidio View Post
    Very nice rifle!!!
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by LTPayton88 View Post
    Good evening everyone,

    So I picked this carbine up yesterday at an estate sell after its previous owner sadly passed away. His son told me that his father had owned this rifle for the past half century or so. So what is the good on the rifle: Mum is intact, all numbers match, original cleaning rod, not import marked and in overall very nice shape but I have not cleaned it yet. The bad: as you will see in the picture there is a massive gash in the side of the stock. By looking at the wood it looks to be a very old point of damage. I know there is literally no way to know what happened but what do you all think? What are your thoughts? Could it be shrapnel and a bring back? Could it be an angry wife who came home early and grabbed the closest thing in the corner and started swinging? What say you?

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    Can anyone point to a site or any resource that I can use to figure out a production date for this rifle? Thanks in advance.
    Looks like forklift fork damage to me. Probably poor operator stuck fork right thru box of many rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlafave19 View Post
    Looks like forklift fork damage to me. Probably poor operator stuck fork right thru box of many rifles.
    Possible. Anything could have happened. Cant discount anything

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    Since the Mum is intact, there is a good chance it was a battlefield pick-up which might help to explain the damage.

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