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    Us p17 bolt numbering question

    Trying to clear the air on this question.

    From what I understand P17 bolts were not serialized as they left the factory unlike the P14, without exception I'm not sure.
    So a P17 Winchester made rifle in excellent original condition possibly unissued it's that nice, sports a numbered bolt (on the top),what is a guy supposed to make of that? Is it most likely one that ended up in a foreign country and was numbered there possibly?

    Sorry no pics.

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    If the rifle is a Model of 1917 Caliber .30 Enfield Rifleicon or P17. The bolts were not serial numbered from the factory. They were also not serialized in US Government Service. As many surplus M1917s were shipped to other countries as war aid during WWII. Many of these countries serial numbered the bolts to conform to their ordnance standards. I would look on your rifle for other markings to indicate foreign service.

    I notice that you are in the Yukon. A great many M1917s were sold to Canadaicon during WWII.
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    Thanks for that......while not my rifle and the limited pictures I've seen there are no markings indicating foreign service. It does not have the red painted band indicating Canadian service.



    Quote Originally Posted by fjruple View Post
    If the rifle is a Model of 1917 Caliber .30 Enfield Rifleicon or P17. The bolts were not serial numbered from the factory. They were also not serialized in US Government Service. As many surplus M1917s were shipped to other countries as war aid during WWII. Many of these countries serial numbered the bolts to conform to their ordnance standards. I would look on your rifle for other markings to indicate foreign service.

    I notice that you are in the Yukon. A great many M1917s were sold to Canadaicon during WWII.

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    The bolt number matches the receiver number? Stamped, electro-etched?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiriaq View Post
    The bolt number matches the receiver number? Stamped, electro-etched?
    Unfourtunatley bolt does not match, it is stamped! Bolt is a 7 digit serial number while the Winchester made rifle is a 6 digit serial number.

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    Check the bolt face to see if it is .30-06 or .303.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiriaq View Post
    Check the bolt face to see if it is .30-06 or .303.
    Yeah requested that info....I will post that when I find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiriaq View Post
    Check the bolt face to see if it is .30-06 or .303.
    Bolt is for a 30-06

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    Pictures of this nice rifle can be seen now....just open the link. Note the numbered mis-match bolt.

    Non-Restricted rifle Enfield (Winchester) model P17, .30-06 bolt action, w/ bbl length 26 [Blued ba

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    bros- Interesting rifle to say the least. The bolt in the rifle probably came out of a Eddystone riflle as the serial number is too high for either Winchester or Remington production guns. Only Eddystone reached that level of serial number. Please bear in mind that each manufacturer ran separate serial number ranges. I believe the rifle came out of Denmarkicon for Greenland patrol as the receiver is cut for heavier weight and longer bullets found in commercial ammunition. Many were sold to locals in that area were your located. There several articles on these rifles located on the web. Several articles are out of Denmark

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