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    Zeroing the No4(T) and No32 MK3 /III for the first time Part 2

    As promised, after a slight Covid induced delay and much change in the country, Part 2.

    In Part 1 we walked through what I did to collimate the bore with the No.32 Scope - see thread here:
    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=76986

    Now it was a case of zeroing. Couldn't be simpler really.
    Range Day, 50yds, using WW2 matched reloads (PPU case, 174gr boat-tail, 2440fps).

    Was optimistic that Part 1 would get the rifle on the paper....the results speak for themselves....quite frankly was stunned.
    The first 5-rounds can be seen on the large target. The three huns head just for fun and nostalgia.
    Unfortunately am not able to explain any adjustments because there weren't any to be made from Part 1! What's the take-away? Part 1 works...

    I will look to zero at 100m too and also experiment further at different ranges as I have time.
    Hope this has been useful and reiterate this is what 'I did' - other approaches are available...

    Also included IWM Images from WW2; firstly (IWM Images) a nod to Ma'am, and her meeting with snipers in WW2 and also of Pte Frances Miller, a notable Britishicon sniper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BazSmiles View Post
    Also included IWM Images from WW2; firstly (IWM Images) a nod to Ma'am, and her meeting with snipers in WW2 and also of Pte Frances Miller, a notable Britishicon sniper.
    The image with both HMQ's is interesting as that is likely a rare shot of an Airborne Div sniper, if it is a sniper they are chatting with, as opposed to a normal Airborne Div soldier displaying typical camo methods for their visit?
    Just the thing for putting round holes in square heads.

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    Still had allot to learn with regards to concealment with the sniper talking to the Queen Mother, the Pat 37 web gear with its brass button Khaki colouring and sharp lines could mean the difference in being spotted or blending in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    Still had allot to learn with regards to concealment with the sniper talking to the Queen Mother, the Pat 37 web gear with its brass button Khaki colouring and sharp lines could mean the difference in being spotted or blending in.
    As noted above, Airborne Div, so very different role to infantry Div snipers.
    Just the thing for putting round holes in square heads.

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    The Queen and Princess Elizabeth

    We can only really go on the description provided (see attached).

    There will always be a need to access ammo pouches; although, yes, not ideal.
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    We'll never know for sure, but suspect he is a sniper..........the other paras in the background are not so festooned with outline disrupting hessian cammo strips.

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    I thought doctrine of the day was take out high value targets I.E Commanding staff and then sorta shoot 'n Scoot. If a Sniper has to start delving into his ammo pouches because he is holding out then the enemy already know pretty much where he is with retribution surely to follow as I read usually mortars or artillery fire.

    Although not every situation is like that.

    I think Carlos Hathcock and his spotter (Not sure if it was Land) held that group of VC in a paddy field for 2 days keeping the field illuminated with start shells all night, they did move around their hill but took a very good haul from that field before they retired, many a VC peered over the berm to be greeted in the face by a 308 projectile.
    Probably his most prejudicial kill was the VC woman called "Apache" whom Carlos put another round into her to make sure she was dead he need not have worried the first round snuffed her out, it was what she did to her captured GI's that made Carlos own her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BazSmiles View Post
    We can only really go on the description provided (see attached).

    There will always be a need to access ammo pouches; although, yes, not ideal.
    Just before D-Day......I wonder if these were 1st or 6th AB?

    The sniper is wearing a newer issue web strap para helmet, and the guys in the background are wearing the leather strap version.

    As for pouches, makes you wonder what a sniper would have carried in his pouches, as I'm sure it wouldn't have been 2 pairs of Bren mags in each......a few grenades I would guess, or they pulled all the charger clips from a bandolier and pulled of the chargers, and filled one pouch with loose rounds given you can't use a charger with the scope on. Lying prone with stuff in the Bren pouches is bloody uncomfortable though.....and they are bugger to get anything out of them, except a pair of Bren mags, so not sure what a sniper would have put in them.....other than rations and other stuff like that.
    Just the thing for putting round holes in square heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post

    As for pouches, makes you wonder what a sniper would have carried in his pouches, .....other than rations and other stuff like that.

    Maybe - Chocolate, Nylons and Condoms (Just In case)
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    It is a parade after all. The hessian itself was probably a struggle enough for some chaps with pace sticks under their arms, or others with red collar tabs for that matter.

    Looks like there's a couple of grenades hanging off his belt.
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