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    What should it be?

    Got this barreled action for just about free & I plan to slowly put it back together. Just not sure as what.

    Due to the nickel plating I assume it was a parade rifle at some point I life & what's left of the bore lends credence to this. I also assume that this was a rifle rather than a carbine, but the barrel has been cut (rather crudely at that) at 18 inches in length breech face to muzzle. But it's almost a smooth bore & needs replacing regardless.
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    Hard to see the number clearly but it appears to be 234290? That is a rifle I believe. Missed the run of carbines by a ways. Yes, it was chromed and needs everything. Simple beginnings...
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    Well you certainly have your work cut out for you. I do respect the fact that you plan to attempt restoring this back to functionality. It's way beyond what I would attempt to restore. Here's a little tidbit I found on the rock island arsenal website. If this holds true your serial number is indeed for a rifle.
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    Ok. Definitely a rifle then. Serial #234306.

    Let's the parts hunt begin. A good stock is probably going to be the obnoxious part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattgunguy View Post
    A good stock
    You haven't said exactly what direction you intend to go, original wood or replacement...here's replacement. It's in Canadaicon though but it's wood so it should be available?

    https://www.prestigiouswoodstocks.co...er-forestock-1

    Here's parts...

    https://www.granpasgunparts.com/krag-springfield
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    There has been some argument about that within the household. The overall direction to go that is. I'm more of a hunt down everything original & restore as a rifle. The wife is wanting it done as a saddle ring carbine. She's got a fetish for SRC guns, so I'm not overly surprised by this. Been nagging me to get her 1863 Sharps back together.

    Thank you for the stock site. I'd never heard of them before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattgunguy View Post
    There has been some argument about that within the household. The overall direction to go that is. I'm more of a hunt down everything original & restore as a rifle. The wife is wanting it done as a saddle ring carbine. She's got a fetish for SRC guns, so I'm not overly surprised by this. Been nagging me to get her 1863 Sharps back together.

    Thank you for the stock site. I'd never heard of them before.
    To be the bearer of bad news the Model 1898 Kragicon Carbine didn't have a saddle ring. That feature was dropped after the Model 1896 Carbine production was finished. In the scope of originality it wouldn't be correct but there's no reason you can't put one on in pursuit of domestic tranquility.

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    Here are a couple more parts outlets. It's pretty obvious you're going to need a lot of parts
    https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=76707
    This is a little eye candy of my 1903 Model 1898 rifle. You can use this for inspiration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldfoneguy View Post
    in pursuit of domestic tranquility.
    I sort of took it she just wants a representative carbine that looks like she wants. It can never be correct anyway, just look really neat. I hope OP keeps us abreast of the rebuild. I want to see the end product.
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    +1 on prestigious. They do ship to the US. They are around 1/16-1/8 oversized in most dimensions so they do need some work to fit and finish.
    You could also buy a sporter stock and try to replace the forend piece with a splice under the barrel band. Most sporters are cut about 4"/10cm ahead of the band, every once and a while you will see sporters with preserved inspector stamps and cartouches.
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    She is a woman of peculiar interests when it comes to firearms. The gist of it is, the older & uglier, the better. She's a blackpowder junky through & through. First two rifles she ever bought all on here own, an 1873 Trapdoor & a Sharps src made 1863 (still in .54 percussion). Her favorite handgun is a beat up Russianicon Nagant. Heck, she drug home a Vetterli Carcano 1870/87/17 today. That'll be a fun plinker once I find a safe a loading for it. Fortunately I already reload 6.5x52mm Carcano for my 1891 long rifle. She bought us a second gun safe a few weeks back (hardware store had em on sale cheap), was supposedly for me. But strangely enough, it mostly her guns in it. She also spends more time at the gun shop than I do. Granted my oldest daughter works there.

    It's just not the natural order of things.

    I will definitely be updating folks on the progress of the Kragicon. Pretty sure that I'll go the saddle ring carbine route. I prefer to do things like this as something that never existed. Just another way for a collector to know that it's not an original. Should it ever get sold.

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