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    Correct Enfield pattern rifling available today...

    Hi all,

    Although there are a number of high quality barrel makers running today, its an interesting fact that only a single firearm engineering company still makes Enfield pattern barrels for Long Lees, SMLE's and No4's using the exact and correct Enfield rifling pattern....

    That company is Armalon Barrels here in the UKicon

    If you are an Enfield Anorak (lets face it guys, we all are here), then returning your worn out Enfield to as close as possible, its original service specification has to be high on the agenda for most collectors/shooters, especially as good quality shooting originals are now sadly getting hard to obtain with the passing of the decades.

    Even the once plentiful £125 'and take your pick' No4 mk1's (in my earliest shooting days) are now getting scarce in good shooting order, with the resultant collectors price steadily rising past £750 for a 'good' shooting grade No4 here in the UK.

    Re-barrelling is certainly going to be the only way to go for the future....

    Peter Sarony penned the following rather interesting story I would like to share below....


    "John Krieger of Krieger barrels, relates in his Guns Magazine article, how his friend and highly respected fellow cut rifling barrel maker Boots Obermeyer came up with 5R rifling in the late 70’s. Boots told him that he was commissioned to make barrels for Aberdeen Proving Grounds to test some Russianicon 7.62x54R ammunition that had been secured and had ball powder loads which they wanted to evaluate. He said The Russian barrels were believed to have been hammer forged and had peculiar slope-sided rifling which he called 4R (R for Russian) pattern. In fact we also know that those rifles also had small radii at the transition between the base and the edges of the grooves. He then made a similar form but with 5 grooves and discovered not only that it shot better than the 4R barrels but it shot with particular accuracy and he then called it 5R rifling. Krieger admits that he came across an 1861 English patent for a rifling head showing a 5R pattern of rifling this being a 5-groove rifling with more pronounced than normal sloped or angled sides to the lands. Such 5R pattern rifling has become highly respected by many, who recognise that by not having lands opposite each other the bullet jackets are not so highly stressed and the fouling is also reduced.

    So, one may ask, what does this have to do with .303 Enfield rifling and with Armalon Limited’s hammer forged barrels of that precise pattern? The Enfield pattern 1 turn in 10” left hand twist barrel pattern which was adopted around 1900, with its distinctive 5 groove form with a radiused transition between the base of the grooves and its sloping edges, is also the same bore size as the 7.62x54R of the 4R grooved Russian rifles that Obermeyer had copied. Thus in fact the original 5R barrel format is that of the true and authentic .303 Enfield pattern, of which Armalon is currently the sole manufacturer worldwide. Their enduring high accuracy is an attestation to the Enfield design, especially when cold hammer forged as with the Amalon barrels, and is also a salute to Boots Obermeyer’s recognition of its beneficial performance of what he called it, namely “5R rifling”. "

    Peter Sarony – July 2023.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrclark303 View Post
    Hi all,

    Although there are a number of high quality barrel makers running today, its an interesting fact that only a single firearm engineering company still makes Enfield pattern barrels for Long Lees, SMLE's and No4's using the exact and correct Enfield rifling pattern....

    That company is Armalon Barrels here in the UKicon

    If you are an Enfield Anorak (lets face it guys, we all are here), then returning your worn out Enfield to as close as possible, its original service specification has to be high on the agenda for most collectors/shooters, especially as good quality shooting originals are now sadly getting hard to obtain with the passing of the decades.

    Even the once plentiful £125 'and take your pick' No4 mk1's (in my earliest shooting days) are now getting scarce in good shooting order, with the resultant collectors price steadily rising past £750 for a 'good' shooting grade No4 here in the UK.

    Re-barrelling is certainly going to be the only way to go for the future....

    Peter Sarony penned the following rather interesting story I would like to share below....


    "John Krieger of Krieger barrels, relates in his Guns Magazine article, how his friend and highly respected fellow cut rifling barrel maker Boots Obermeyer came up with 5R rifling in the late 70’s. Boots told him that he was commissioned to make barrels for Aberdeen Proving Grounds to test some Russianicon 7.62x54R ammunition that had been secured and had ball powder loads which they wanted to evaluate. He said The Russian barrels were believed to have been hammer forged and had peculiar slope-sided rifling which he called 4R (R for Russian) pattern. In fact we also know that those rifles also had small radii at the transition between the base and the edges of the grooves. He then made a similar form but with 5 grooves and discovered not only that it shot better than the 4R barrels but it shot with particular accuracy and he then called it 5R rifling. Krieger admits that he came across an 1861 English patent for a rifling head showing a 5R pattern of rifling this being a 5-groove rifling with more pronounced than normal sloped or angled sides to the lands. Such 5R pattern rifling has become highly respected by many, who recognise that by not having lands opposite each other the bullet jackets are not so highly stressed and the fouling is also reduced.

    So, one may ask, what does this have to do with .303 Enfield rifling and with Armalon Limited’s hammer forged barrels of that precise pattern? The Enfield pattern 1 turn in 10” left hand twist barrel pattern which was adopted around 1900, with its distinctive 5 groove form with a radiused transition between the base of the grooves and its sloping edges, is also the same bore size as the 7.62x54R of the 4R grooved Russian rifles that Obermeyer had copied. Thus in fact the original 5R barrel format is that of the true and authentic .303 Enfield pattern, of which Armalon is currently the sole manufacturer worldwide. Their enduring high accuracy is an attestation to the Enfield design, especially when cold hammer forged as with the Amalon barrels, and is also a salute to Boots Obermeyer’s recognition of its beneficial performance of what he called it, namely “5R rifling”. "

    Peter Sarony – July 2023.
    In the "hold my hat and watch this..."

    5R is very 15 years ago - the latest "new age craze" is Left Hand rifling.

    And "gain twist" has been (re) discovered as well....
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    The point being it's the original rifling pattern, something I hadn't actually considered before and find really facinating, it's actually intrinsic to recreating the original rifle configuration as built if you think about it.
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    Armalon and Lother-Walther are the only two options if you want to re-barrel a SMLE or No.4 Lee-Enfield anyway now it seems...and I would guess Armalon are the only option in town if you need to re-barrel a L42 or Enforcer....?

    Criterion have stopped making their No.4 barrels by all accounts for some reason, and Lother-Walther for some reason don't export their SMLE barrels to USAicon, so there's certainly issues now if you are North America based and need a new barrel for a No.3/No.4.
    Just the thing for putting round holes in square heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
    Criterion have stopped making their No.4 barrels by all accounts for some reason,
    That's a shame; I've been more than pleased with mine for target applications in SR"b".
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    Australianicon enthusiasts should contact AlanSwan of Swan Barrels, Redbank Plains, fame.

    He makes a VERY similar "correct pattern"-ish LH-twist barrel. They are butttoned as opposed to "cut". The rifling is more "5R" than pure "Enfield". The bore diameter is to the original drawings, but the "groove" diameter is held to much finer tolerances than the "originals", . By the drawings, a .304" bore and 320" effective diameter were within "Mil-spec" tolerances; (Bore .303"+.001", GROOVE DEPTH: Max- 0.008"). The other reason for that form of rifling was that it could not easily be passed-ff as "original, even liberally sprinkled with bogus proof and ownership stamps.

    I still have a couple of the test "blanks", left over from a P-14 barrel project that was abandoned after ONE rebarreling of an externally "nice" but internally shabby P-14 Mk 1*.

    One of the things I discovered was that, for a "mass-produced" rifle the P-14, Mk1 and 1", are pretty much "hand-fitted". I suspect that there was a LOT of engineering "tap-dancing" before the M-17 production got properly underway.

    I might have a crack at reviving a P-14, after some other projects are finished

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    When Josh Buege left Criterion for greener pastures, I think the enthusiasm to build No.4 barrels went with him. I keep hearing that they will make another batch but we're still waiting a few years later. He asked me and I supplied 2 each, cut SMLE front halves of bodies from Englandicon, Australiaicon and India to start work on developing replacement barrels for the SMLE too, but it never came to fruition. Much like the bullet manufacturers who are missing the boat on building a proper 174 grain flat base Mk.7 equivalent, (I tried working with Sierra on that one too), we Enfield enthusiasts are being neglected again. Maybe the market isn't big enough? I find that hard to believe as we have a following of collectors and shooters worldwide that's as prevalent as any.

    I may start importing some barrels from Armalon and have had commo with Peter Sarony about it but times are lean here these days and I don't have the disposable income to stock my barrel drawer.

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    Just out of curiosity, what does it take to get a barrel exported from the UKicon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Dickicon View Post
    Much like the bullet manufacturers who are missing the boat on building a proper 174 grain flat base Mk.7 equivalent, (I tried working with Sierra on that one too), we Enfield enthusiasts are being neglected again. Maybe the market isn't big enough?
    Brian I suspect you're right regarding the size of the market.

    For those of us in the UKicon Malcolm Seller makes an excellent flat base 174gr .311" and a MkVI 215gr, not to mention all the heavier black powder stuff he produces.
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    is the 174 gn flat based or open based as the Mk7 is like wise the 215gn was open based

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