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    tiraq, Guessing in Canadaicon that you need an import permit, the same as the USAicon but could be wrong. The UKicon require an export license for all pressure bearing parts, so they probably need an import permit in order to submit for the export license.

    SB, Sierra told me in 2012 that if I ordered and paid for a million projectiles they would consider it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Dickicon View Post
    SB, Sierra told me in 2012 that if I ordered and paid for a million projectiles they would consider it.
    Funnily enough, the other day I watched a video on Youtube taken at the BAe munitions factory in UKicon (the old ROF at Radway Green) and they stated that make a million rounds of ammo per day there for the UK MOD (and that factory was the last place that made 303 Mil ammo in the UK, production of which ended there in 1973) so it would be interesting to know how many rounds of 303 that S&B and PPU make per year, that it's commercially viable for them to still make 303 ammo commercially?
    Its a shame BAe can't see the same commercial case for it as well, although I doubt they still have the machine tools to make Mk.7z, but would be nice to see them do it, if they made proper milspec Mk.7z again, and a competitive price they could take away most of that business from S&B and PPU, given both only make what is close to the MG Mk.8z ammo.
    Just the thing for putting round holes in square heads.

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    It took a lot of cajoling from what I assume were many 7.7mm reloaders to get Sierra to start making their #2315 bullets again this year. I talked to one of their reps at length on the phone (this was months ago) and he said they plan the year's production well in advance, hoping to meet the consumer's needs. He said restarting production of the #2315 174 gr. HPBT SMK was a topic of discussion at a production meeting and apparently they gave it the go-ahead. I recently added another 1,000 #2315 bullets to my dwindling supply as I was down to slightly over 200 bullets left. Of course, we would all prefer a proper flat open base 174gr. bullet but we simply have to adjust to our current reality.

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    Aren't the Highland projies (Now unobtainium in Aus) open based BT's and are they not loaded into the PPU ammo!
    About 4 years ago I lucked onto 400 odd Highland projies and snapped them up bit like the Taipans as well got 300 of those more for posterity.

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    Woodleigh is an Australianicon business that makes a range of .312" bullets. Premium Bullets for all Game - Woodleigh Bullets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bindi2 View Post
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    is the 174 gn flat based or open based as the Mk7 is like wise the 215gn was open based
    From Malcolm's leaflet:
    "The base is entirely protected by the copper jacket leaving no lead exposed".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strangely Brown View Post
    Brian I suspect you're right regarding the size of the market.

    For those of us in the UKicon Malcolm Seller makes an excellent flat base 174gr .311" and a MkVI 215gr, not to mention all the heavier black powder stuff he produces.


    Kynamco / Kynoch also make a MkVI
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    Was the Mkv1 not a FMJ with an open base. I know the Indian DUM DUM had exposed lead tips but did it have an open base. I dont have any in my collection to examine.
    The open base is the key here. I do have some Mkv1 i acquired in Englandicon made by an unknown person ( not factory ) to me. They were bought for a particular purpose.

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    Very interesting info MrClark. I called every barrel maker in Canadaicon at one point and there was no one left working in chrome-moly steel: all gone to stainless for ease of working and customer preference.

    If 5 groove is inherently more accurate than 4 one would wonder why the Russians stuck with it? Perhaps they concluded the "crushing" effect equalized when even numbers of equidistant lands were used? The Ross Mk.II used 4 groove and certainly lacked nothing for accuracy as results at Bisley showed, and so did the Mk.III.

    I would have to wonder why it was thought necessary to produce a new rifling form to test some Russianicon ammunition?

    What were the radii at the "corners" of the lands exactly? The concept makes sense theoretically in terms of gas-seal and ease of cleaning etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bindi2 View Post
    AdE
    Was the Mkv1 not a FMJ with an open base. I know the Indian DUM DUM had exposed lead tips but did it have an open base. I dont have any in my collection to examine.
    The open base is the key here. I do have some Mkv1 i acquired in Englandicon made by an unknown person ( not factory ) to me. They were bought for a particular purpose.

    I don't have any MkVI information, but for interest, the 'original' MkVII was actually a 160gr bullet,

    I cannot find where I got this info from - so apologies to the author for not acknowledging them.

    The original .303" MkVII bt weighed 160 gr and was approved in Mar 1910 and had no cannelure. Production lots of this ammo failed accuracy proof and the bt was redesigned.
    The new bt retained the exterior dimensions of the above but the aluminum core tip was shortened and the lead lengthened. The new bt weighed 174 gr and was approved LOC 15629 Oct 1910.
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