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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk VII View Post
    Short butt; probably too short for most men today. Might be alright for women.
    Easily fixed by putting a slip-on recoil pad when shooting. I have long arms (appendages) and use them with all my rifles.

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    The slip on pads work really well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    I see A.T.S 44 (?) so could stand for Air Training School but I'll dig out the books the top one I cannot readily make out.
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    i don't believe ATS would stand for "Air Training School" as cadet pilots in Canadaicon during WWII progressed from EFTS (Elementary Flight Training School) through SFTS (Service Flying Training School to an OTU (Operational Training Unit). Those destined to become mechanics and technicians attended TTS (Technical Training School) such as the one at St. Thomas, Ontario while RCAF clerks and drivers attended No.1 CTS (Composite Training School) at Trenton. Ontario. There was also No.1 ITS (Initial Training School) in Toronto, Ontario where cadet pilots learned drill, rank structure, dress, and deportment. I've scoured my books on the history of the RCAF and no reference to ATS found.

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    ATS - could well be ..........................

    The Auxiliary Territorial Service (ATS; often pronounced as an acronym) was the women's branch of the Britishicon Army during the Second World War. It was formed on 9 September 1938, initially as a women's voluntary service, and existed until 1 February 1949, when it was merged into the Women's Royal Army Corps.

    The ATS had its roots in the Women's Auxiliary Army Corps (WAAC), which was formed in 1917 as a voluntary service. During the First World War its members served in a number of jobs including clerks, cooks, telephonists and waitresses. The WAAC was disbanded after four years in 1921.

    Prior to the Second World War, the government decided to establish a new Corps for women, and an advisory council, which included members of the Territorial Army (TA), a section of the Women's Transport Service (FANY) and the Women's Legion, was set up. The council decided that the ATS would be attached to the Territorial Army, and the women serving would receive two thirds the pay of male soldiers.

    All women in the army joined the ATS except for nurses, who joined Queen Alexandra's Imperial Military Nursing Service (QAIMNS), medical and dental officers, who were commissioned directly into the Army and held army ranks, and those remaining in the FANY, known as Free FANYs.
    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    ATS - could well be ..........................

    The Auxiliary Territorial Service (ATS; often pronounced as an acronym) was the women's branch of the Britishicon Army during the Second World War. It was formed on 9 September 1938, initially as a women's voluntary service, and existed until 1 February 1949, when it was merged into the Women's Royal Arm.
    By Jove man, I think you've got it! As you can see from the insignia, it is 'A T.S' It makes sense that it was taken into stores on May of 1925 and issued to the 'AT.S' in 1944. Furthermore the allusion to the stock length being fit for a woman, makes perfect sense in that case. Perhaps it was wielded by Elizabeth (kidding). I do miss her.




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    Quote Originally Posted by R005t3r View Post
    Perhaps it was wielded by Elizabeth (kidding). I do miss her.

    Assuming you mean Elizabeth (QE II) even as Princess Elizabeth she was a shooter of Lee Enfields .....................
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    Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield View Post
    Assuming you mean Elizabeth (QE II) even as Princess Elizabeth she was a shooter of Lee Enfields .....................
    Yes, Koenigin Elizabeth Alexandra Maria von Saxe-Coburg und Gotha. So hot. I feel dirty

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    Canadaicon, unlike Australiaicon, took home some of the rifles it had actually used in the trenches of WW1.

    By late 1919, 67,000 SMLEs returned to Canada with the elements of the CEF heading home.

    By the end of the financial year in 1921 another 49,000 Lee Enfield's were returned to Canada. There were sent due to the credit of the Ross rifles that Canada had exchanged for SMLES but left in Britainicon at the end of the war. This means that there was 104,800 SMLEs in Canadian possession.

    Due to the relatively nice condition of the wood and non-original butt........I'd say this was one of the later SMLE arrivals as Canada wanted nice conditioned rifles as part of the Ross/SMLE exchange credit in 1920/1921.

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    "Advanced Training School" is another possibility perhaps, in regard to the BCATP?
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    The ATS were not armed, and were not supposed to have access to arms either.

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