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    Current Bid with 4 1/2 days to go, $2,600.00CAD

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    And in the same auction, a thoroughly sporterized T without the pads. A previous owner electropenciled his name, numbers and address all over this one. It was a thing years ago.

    LEE ENFIELD LONG BRANCH | Model: NO4 MKI* T Sniper Sporter | Caliber: .303 BR - Switzer's Auction & Appraisal Service

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    1. No4T 22 bid has not even covered the scope and bracket - this will go for much more - 4 days to go.

    2. The sportizer LB - is the serial number a Canadian No4 sniper????? Too bad it's electro pencil - hard to polish out. Also drilled and tapped on the receiver. If originally a LB T its a very difficult and costly restoration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maple_Leaf_Eh View Post
    And in the same auction, a thoroughly sporterized T without the pads. A previous owner electropenciled his name, numbers and address all over this one. It was a thing years ago.

    LEE ENFIELD LONG BRANCH | Model: NO4 MKI* T Sniper Sporter | Caliber: .303 BR - Switzer's Auction & Appraisal Service
    Never fitted with pads by the look of it. Was this around the time of a change over to the SAL "Griffin & Howe" mount?
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    I met Harry in the late 60's, he was a supply teacher at my high school and coached the rifle team of which I was a member for 5 years. He was a true gentleman and I spent hours in his basement admiring his collection.The rifle team made many visits to the military ranges at Camp Ipperwash, Cedar Springs and Winona Ontario because of his military connections. He would always bring antique rifles along, Snider's, Brown Bess or Martini Henry's to shoot after competitions. After I finished high schools we always met up at local gun shows, .his son Bruce was a collector as well. Harry always walked bolt upright, shoulders back, he was pure military through and through and greatly missed

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    Rather curious that the forend tie plate on that uncompleted 71L rifle has been welded. Presumably the brass crosspin replaced with steel? The routing out of the recess looks a bit different from normal as well.

    I wonder if this was one of those rifles put together from left over odds and ends as apparently happened at Long Branch - SAL. A number of rifles of various configurations have turned up assembled from various parts. Could this be an experimental tie-plate system? Decades ago I spoke to a former RCN engineering office who was a technical inspector in some capacity for the federal government in the 1950s and 60s, who mentioned having a rifle made up there as a retirement present for a colleague, as this was a largely unprompted recollection and he mentioned the rifle "even having the tag on it" etc. I thought it a pretty reliable statement.

    There is another uncompleted Long Branch rifle for sale online at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    Rather curious that the forend tie plate on that uncompleted 71L rifle has been welded. Presumably the brass crosspin replaced with steel? The routing out of the recess looks a bit different from normal as well.

    I wonder if this was one of those rifles put together from left over odds and ends as apparently happened at Long Branch - SAL. A number of rifles of various configurations have turned up assembled from various parts. Could this be an experimental tie-plate system? Decades ago I spoke to a former RCN engineering office who was a technical inspector in some capacity for the federal government in the 1950s and 60s, who mentioned having a rifle made up there as a retirement present for a colleague, as this was a largely unprompted recollection and he mentioned the rifle "even having the tag on it" etc. I thought it a pretty reliable statement.

    There is another uncompleted Long Branch rifle for sale online at the moment.
    This 71L was stripped by Parker Hale and D&T for their mounts.

    I've seen one or two that were done by "Santa Fe" in the past.

    One of my No4T rifles was a retirement gift, the wood sanded and poliurathaned, and all the metal was spray painted silver.

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    And for the sake of record keeping, the .22LR conversion CNo.7/No.4(T) sold for $5,000.00CAD (plus $750.00 buyer's premium + applicable fees & taxes & shipping.

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    Current Bid with 4 1/2 days to go, $2,600.00CAD

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    And in the same auction, a thoroughly sporterized T without the pads. A previous owner electropenciled his name, numbers and address all over this one. It was a thing years ago.

    LEE ENFIELD LONG BRANCH | Model: NO4 MKI* T Sniper Sporter | Caliber: .303 BR - Switzer's Auction & Appraisal Service
    Sold for $1800 plus premium, taxes and shipping. May God guide the hand of the buyer; ther is a lot of work ahead.

    A genuine T with No.15 chest and No.8 Mk II boot went for $6200, but the engraving on the scope was not perfect and the wood had several chips.

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    And for the sake of record keeping, the buyer of the 22 sniper was none other than.......................................
    me. It will be staying as is. Should be a fun little plinker arouund the yard. Gophers look out. Theres a sniper out there waiting for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgg_7 View Post

    2. The sportizer LB - is the serial number a Canadian No4 sniper?????
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    If you check this old thread: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=55741
    The serial number71L0442 fits perfectly within the listed 71L rifles which had the no32 scopes fitted.

    1. 71L0276 ?
    2. 71L0279 DATED 1944 Scope Missing, Seaspriter on Milsurps Robert Porter Lynch, Naples, FL USAicon
    3. 71L0287 C No. 32 MK. IA 368C UNKNOWN
    4. 71L0297 17977 17977
    5. 71L0303 351C Cold Zero ? Alberta Canadaicon
    6. 71L0322 C No. 32 Mk. IA 301C B & B Arsenal
    7. 71L0332 No. 32 MK. IA 3840 ?
    8. 71L0350 C No. 32 405C paul87buck USAicon?
    9. 71L0374 UKicon
    10. 71L0403 C No. 32 Mk. II 471C UNKNOWN Italyicon?
    11. 71L0414 C No. 32 MK. II UNKNOWN Canada?
    12. 71L0435 C No. 32 Mk. I or IA or II 168C John ROBERTSON Canada
    13. 71L0439 C No. 32 Mk. II 3854C 3854C UNKNOWN USA
    14. 71L0555 No. 32 Mk. II 11189 11189 Colin Stevens Canada (Britishicon scope fitted in service) DATED 1944
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