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    What would happen to this guy where you live?

    Our laws unfortunately are far too slanted in favour of the criminal. What if any thing would happen to this this gentleman for doing what he did where you live?

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    By Jack Wilson - Red Deer Advocate

    Published: April 10, 2009 7:05 AM

    STETTLER — A groundswell of support Thursday left a Tees farmer “overwhelmed” with gratitude, his lawyer said following a brief court appearance.

    Brian Russell Knight, 38, reserved his plea through his lawyer Jim Dixon on seven charges, including the most serious of criminal negligence causing bodily harm.

    The provincial courtroom, which seats about 70 people, was jammed to capacity with another 60 people standing in the two aisles before Judge John Holmes.

    Knight was charged on March 26 after it was alleged he chased down and shot one of three men with a shotgun blast. It’s alleged the men were discovered in Knight’s farm yard early in the morning attempting to steal an ATV.

    The injured 30-year-old man was taken to an Edmonton hospital, treated and released on a promise to appear in court. He has been charged with theft but his name hasn’t been released yet because the information hasn’t been sworn, Sgt. Jim Lank of Bashaw RCMP said later Thursday. The Privacy Act prevents police from releasing the identity of an accused until the information is sworn.

    Lank also said it appears the other two men alleged to be involved in the theft will be charged.

    Bashaw RCMP said the incident started around 1:40 a.m. when three men were spotted in Knight’s yard.

    Two of the men took off in a truck while the third hopped on the ATV.

    Police allege the ATV was forced off the road and two shots were fired as the man ran off.

    Knight is also charged with pointing a firearm, possession of a weapon dangerous to the public, discharging a firearm, dangerous driving, and possession of an unregistered firearm.

    The large throng waiting outside the courthouse following the appearance cheered and clapped when Knight finally emerged flanked by his wife and Dixon.

    People came from all over Central Alberta, including an elderly couple from Wildwood, located about 125 km west of Edmonton, to support Knight and make financial contributions to his defence fund.

    “We came to show our backing and to give him some money because rural people are not always cared for quickly by the police,” said Colleen Korbisser.

    “He’s the victim. He was protecting his property,” Korbisser said.

    Knight, flanked by his wife and Dixon and dressed in a smart olive green suit, said he would let his lawyer convey his words.

    “The matters with which he is charged are certainly not trifling or inconsequential,” Dixon said in a prepared statement.

    “These are very serious matters and as such will be responded to in a serious fashion,” Dixon added.

    Dixon said the facts indicated that “evil doers had invaded the sanctity of the Knight home in the wee hours of the night.”

    He said his client is of a “community of persons who holds the police and the courts in high regards.”

    “He stands here in humble awe and is absolutely overwhelmed by the considerable amount of support he’s received from near and far.”

    Dixon said Knight, who is a stranger to the court system, is “apprehensive, uncertain and unnerved” by the events.

    Clive area neighbours Walter Hunter and Scott Reaney also came to show support.

    Hunter, a former Clive councillor, said rural people are fed up with slow police response times to complaints.

    “Sometimes it takes two hours to get a cop out. There has to be changes made to the system to get us help and protection,” Hunter said.

    He said many people are fed up with both the police and the Crown prosecutor’s office in handling crime.

    “People have had enough. Brian is the victim here,” Hunter added.

    Reaney said he went to school with Knight and knows him as a “decent, moral person.”

    “He’s not a vigilante. He’s not a gun-toting maniac and he’s not a John Wayne,” Reaney said.

    “I bet there’s people around who would have finished the thief off but Brian called police to say they had the guy.”

    A Facebook page started in support of Knight, called Support for Brian Knight of Tees Alberta, has drawn 2,400 names.
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    Doubt it be a problem here

    In Chester county, suburban Philadelphia, bordering on country, I don't think it would create a problem for the shooter once the facts were established.

    Pennsylania generally remains pro-gun; we've got 4- to 500,000 hunters.
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    In Texas after dark on your property the thief can be shot legally. There was a case a few years ago in El Paso where a thief stole a load of bricks. The owner chased the thief down the street and shot him dead in broad daylight. He was acquitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecil View Post
    In Texas after dark on your property the thief can be shot legally. There was a case a few years ago in El Paso where a thief stole a load of bricks. The owner chased the thief down the street and shot him dead in broad daylight. He was acquitted.
    I cant say if this email forward is factual, but it sounds about right. I know of cases here in FL where fleeing felons were shot, and no charges filed.


    A TRUE STORY FROM...
    "THE HOUSTON HERALD NEWSPAPER"
    IN HOUSTON, TEXAS
    MARCH 5th, 2009
    ~
    Last Thursday Night Around Midnight,
    A Woman From Houston, Texas Was Arrested,
    Jailed, And Charged With Manslaughter
    For Shooting A Man 6 Times In The Back
    As He Was Running Away With Her Purse.
    ~
    The Following Monday Morning,
    The Woman Was Called In Front Of The
    Arraignment Judge, Sworn In,
    And Asked To Explain Her Actions.
    ~
    The Woman Replied,
    "I Was Standing At The Corner Bus Stop
    For About 15 Minutes, Waiting For The
    Bus To Take Me Home After Work.
    I Am A Waitress At A Local Cafe...
    ~
    I Was There Alone,
    So I Had My Right Hand On My Pistol,
    That Was In My Purse, That Was Hung
    Over My Left Shoulder.
    ~
    All Of A Sudden I Was Being
    Spun Around Hard To My Left.
    As I Caught My Balance, I Saw A Man
    Running Away From Me With My Purse.
    ~
    I Looked Down At My Right Hand And I Saw
    That My Fingers Were Wrapped Tightly
    Around My Pistol.
    The Next Thing I Remember Is Saying Out Loud,
    "No Way Punk! Your Not Stealing My
    Pay Check And Tips."
    ~
    I Raised My Right Hand, Pointed My Pistol
    At The Man Running Away From Me With My Purse,
    And Squeezed The Trigger Of My Pistol 6 Times!
    ~
    When Asked By The Arraignment Judge,
    "Why Did You Shoot The Man 6 Times?
    ~
    The Woman Replied Under Oath,
    "Because, When I Pulled The Trigger Of
    My Pistol The 7th Time, It Only Went Click."
    ~
    The Woman Was Acquitted Of All Charges.
    And She Was Back At Work,
    At The Cafe, The Next Day!

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    In California

    In sunny California the home owner would face those charges and a host of others - his name would appear on page one, his life painted as a crazed nut lying in wait to shoot some poor innocent young men...

    his house would be searched and his "arsenal" displayed for the press (they don't care if they "look" like a couple of shotguns and a .22 - an arsenal is an arsenal....)

    the "alledged" thieves would not be identified - because no charges would be filed against them....

    the poor innocent youth would be approached by a dozen members of the legal profession offering assistance - and the home owner would spend years defending himself against "civil rights" violations....

    I know - I live here - - You can't beat the weather - the government is overbearing - but you can make a substantial amount of money - - and like me, you can look forward to the day when you retire (to ANY other state other than California)

    In California - if someone breaks into your house - and you have an escape route available (ie: back door) - you are expected to flee.... you cannot defend life unless 1) you were in fear for your life AND 2) you had no options to escape. You cannot defend property - period - ever -

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobek View Post
    In California - if someone breaks into your house - and you have an escape route available (ie: back door) - you are expected to flee.... you cannot defend life unless 1) you were in fear for your life AND 2) you had no options to escape. You cannot defend property - period - ever -Steve
    That's why I was scared to death every minute I lived in Kalifornia

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    KTK's question.......

    At one time in Indiana you could shoot a fleeing felon "shoot to stop" sort of thing,police did it a lot in my area,then a few challenges in court where citizens had done the shooting and had to defend their actions in court and that led to "life has more value than property",could only shoot fleeing felon now if he was armed,friend of mine did juist that,in garage working when felon walked in thru open ovehead door facing alley,hit my friend in back of head with pipe,grabbed his wallet and a struggle started,felon broke away and started running down alley,friend stumbled to garage door and shot him with 45 Colt Commander as he was running away,police took report,prosecuter refused to charge,said felon had used a weapon(bludgeon) and there fore was a danger to the community,another prosecuter may see it in a diff. light,never know,was about 23/24 yrs. ago.
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    I Oklahoma all of the neighbors would be really p!ssed for missing out on the chase. The shooting would be legal if the farmer was careful how he worded his statement. It also helps if the homeowner doesn't reload more than a couple of times

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    I remember many years ago there was a case in Phila., Pa. where a man sitting on his front porch witnessed a purse snatching. He arose, reached inside the home where his .22 target pistol was near the door, took aim at the fleeing purse snatcher and shot him in the back. Although not killed, the felon was paralyzed for life. In court, the judge went out of his way to praise the man for intervening. I reckon this would never be repeated in the Philadelphia of today, where the criminals have more rights than decent people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken C. View Post
    I cant say if this email forward is factual, but it sounds about right. I know of cases here in FL where fleeing felons were shot, and no charges filed.


    A TRUE STORY FROM...
    "THE HOUSTON HERALD NEWSPAPER"
    IN HOUSTON, TEXAS
    MARCH 5th, 2009
    ~
    Last Thursday Night Around Midnight,
    A Woman From Houston, Texas Was Arrested,
    Jailed, And Charged With Manslaughter
    For Shooting A Man 6 Times In The Back
    As He Was Running Away With Her Purse.
    ~
    The Following Monday Morning,
    The Woman Was Called In Front Of The
    Arraignment Judge, Sworn In,
    And Asked To Explain Her Actions.
    ~
    The Woman Replied,
    "I Was Standing At The Corner Bus Stop
    For About 15 Minutes, Waiting For The
    Bus To Take Me Home After Work.
    I Am A Waitress At A Local Cafe...
    ~
    I Was There Alone,
    So I Had My Right Hand On My Pistol,
    That Was In My Purse, That Was Hung
    Over My Left Shoulder.
    ~
    All Of A Sudden I Was Being
    Spun Around Hard To My Left.
    As I Caught My Balance, I Saw A Man
    Running Away From Me With My Purse.
    ~
    I Looked Down At My Right Hand And I Saw
    That My Fingers Were Wrapped Tightly
    Around My Pistol.
    The Next Thing I Remember Is Saying Out Loud,
    "No Way Punk! Your Not Stealing My
    Pay Check And Tips."
    ~
    I Raised My Right Hand, Pointed My Pistol
    At The Man Running Away From Me With My Purse,
    And Squeezed The Trigger Of My Pistol 6 Times!
    ~
    When Asked By The Arraignment Judge,
    "Why Did You Shoot The Man 6 Times?
    ~
    The Woman Replied Under Oath,
    "Because, When I Pulled The Trigger Of
    My Pistol The 7th Time, It Only Went Click."
    ~
    The Woman Was Acquitted Of All Charges.
    And She Was Back At Work,
    At The Cafe, The Next Day!
    The only paper that reports news is the Houston Chronicle as far as I know there isn't a "Houston Hearald" and I grew up here.

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