USMC Model 70 Winchester sniper rifle

[Critch]

I've seen pictures of the Model 70 in Vietnam with the Unertl scope and mount, but I've also seen pictures of a Model 70 with what looks like a 3x9x40scope, but I can't make out the mounts,,,what was used for the Redfield scopes?

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[Gator]

Other than the Unertl's, the only scopes I'm aware of used on the model 70s were some 3x9 Japanese made commercial scopes bought through the PX system. The mounts were probably obtained in the same way.

[Critch]

I've seen this grunt identified as a Marine on numerous websites, honestly, I'm not too sure how to tell a Marine from Army during that time period. It does appear to be a Model 70 but the scope is not a Unertl.

Were Redfield scope mounts common then?

[Gator]

That looks like an M84 scope. Those were probably available in the supply system, but they were only 2.5X. Not bad for the type of terrain in that pic, though. I really have no idea about the mounts; Redfield, Williams...or whatever they could get.

[jjroth]

the early variant of the Leatherwood ART??

Can't be a MARINE, not enough equipment for the body stature.

[Gator]

The URL of the pic leads to a 101 Airborne LRRP/Ranger site. The photographer was Army.

[Lt1]

I've seen pictures of the Model 70 in Vietnam with the Unertl scope and mount, but I've also seen pictures of a Model 70 with what looks like a 3x9x40scope, but I can't make out the mounts,,,what was used for the Redfield scopes?

Early redfield steel mount & intergrated 1 "rings

[Critch]

Thanks Lt1, I've always wondered what the scope mounts looked like back then. When I found that picture the first time it was IDed as a Marine, but I still wasn't sure.

I wish American Rifleman or one of the magazines would do an article on early scope mounts.

[JGaynor]

I have pics from 60's magazine article that show the USMC Win 70 sniper w/the japanese "Marine Scope" to be using a two-piece mount.

When the Remington 700's came along they utilized the one piece Redfield Jr. with a parkerized finish. the Redfield was reportedly the source of some problems - a little too light for a combat rifle.

[Lt1]

I have pics from 60's magazine article that show the USMC Win 70 sniper w/the japanese "Marine Scope" to be using a two-piece mount.

When the Remington 700's came along they utilized the one piece Redfield Jr. with a parkerized finish. the Redfield was reportedly the source of some problems - a little too light for a combat rifle.

The following letter From Col Bill Dickman USMC Ret.that relates to the M40 & M70 used by Hathcock