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    Looks good.

    You don't need to use much Tempilaq -- just the barest of swipes -- as even a thinnest of layers quickly dries opaque white. Nor does that swipe have to be neat or complete since it's a "yes or no" / "on or off" / "white or nothing" type indicator when temp is reached. You can literally just race from case-to-case-case and not worry about whther its "enough" or "properly applied", or "going on right"

    I'll get/send some of their "green label" thinner (some kind of n-Propyl Bromide) if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MEHavey View Post
    Looks good.

    You don't need to use much Tempilaq -- just the barest of swipes -- as even a thinnest of layers quickly dries opaque white. Nor does that swipe have to be neat or complete since it's a "yes or no" / "on or off" / "white or nothing" type indicator when temp is reached. You can literally just race from case-to-case-case and not worry about whther its "enough" or "properly applied", or "going on right"

    I'll get/send some of their "green label" thinner (some kind of n-Propyl Bromide) if you want.
    That looks exactly like how much I have put on. I've started to store it upside down. Maybe that will help think the thick stuff in the neck. I can see that this annealing technique is going to be a big help to me. The fatboy propane flame doesn't seem as hot or concentrated as I'm used to with the regular propane bottles. I hope it's going to work on plumbing ok. I think it's a bit hard to control because it's a wide flame that's got a non-distinct edge, but it does seem to give a nice factory looking annealing job if I do my part.

    I'd be interested in some of that thinner.

    Thanks for all of the help,

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    They look good, maybe a little uneven. I expect you'll soon feel confident enough to proceed without the "training wheels", having learned that annealing is really a whole lot easier than some folks would have us think. Over the years I've tried and discarded various spinning arrangements as unnecessary and also eventually eliminated the water dunk after seeing pictures of how annealing is done at the factory - with no H20 in sight.

    There's an interesting old book on cartridge manufacture digitized at Cartridge manufacture (Open Library) . Even back in 1916, annealed cases were "allowed to cool gradually" (p. 48).

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    You may be right about the water dunk, but I'll probably still use it as a convenient "...where do I get rid of this hot case into a cushioned surface...?" option. As for training wheels and unnecessary precision, name me a handloader that isn't in it for the ridiculous fun what most of our current society calls an anti-social waste of time. <grin>

    I've got thinner on the way Danny. Contact me offline so I can mail some out when it arrives.
    (ps: I get rid of the after-aneal Tempilaq swipe with nail polish remover/acetone as part of my final case clean.)




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    I've sent you a private message,

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MEHavey View Post
    You may be right about the water dunk, but I'll probably still use it as a convenient "...where do I get rid of this hot case into a cushioned surface...?" option. As for training wheels and unnecessary precision, name me a handloader that isn't in it for the ridiculous fun what most of our current society calls an anti-social waste of time. <grin>

    I've got thinner on the way Danny. Contact me offline so I can mail some out when it arrives.
    (ps: I get rid of the after-aneal Tempilaq swipe with nail polish remover/acetone as part of my final case clean.)




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    Wow. I've decided that the next time I have to anneal cases I'm going to buy one of those power annealers. I can get it done a lot quicker for lots of 1,000 or more with one of those. I bought a Giraud Trimmer, so I might as well buy one of those.

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    Yes, that's the one I saw. I just have to look to find ways to cut the time in preparing brass these days. THe Giraud Trimmer was one of the greatest things I ever bought for reloading.

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    I gotta have one of those....



    Heavy duty.....

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    The last time I did a sizeable batch (1000) of cases with the Giraud, it took me about an hour, or a little less, if I remember, and that's for trimming AND Chamfering. I can't think (and don't want to think) about how many weeks that took me to do with a power screwdriver and the Lee trimmer and chamfer tool. I hope to gain the same "leg up" with that tool as I did with the Giraud.

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    I gotta have one of those....



    Heavy duty.....

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