Microsoft's Vista.....

[RayP.]

Any one looking at buying a new computer might want to take a close look at some of the other operating systems,I fired this pc up Sat. a.m.,had 34 fixes and a Service Pack waiting to be downloaded and installed,took a couple of days,got on line this a.m. and had 4 more patches waitng to be downloaded and installed,I think Microsoft should offer an exchange of operating systems and get rid of this Vista.

RayP.

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[dryheat]

I don't know much about computers, but when the guys sold me mine, they told me, don't mess with Vista. So I stayed with XP.

[Ramboueille]

.....,I fired this pc up Sat. a.m.,had 34 fixes and a Service Pack waiting to be downloaded and installed,took a couple of days........
RayP.

Ray,

What is "this pc?" Is that your laptop on dialup?

[0311Shooter]

We fought this battle awhile back. I don't like Vista and I don't like Bill Gates.

After a couple years getting those darn "updates" I finally had enough. Got to where my fast PC was taking a minute to come up for loading those updates. Finally did away with the update crapola setup.

But to avoid virii and malware and bugs, I loaded a thing called Threatfire from PC Tools. It runs in the background, updates itself nearly every day, only takes a few seconds. It's free and I no longer have to put up with those stupid updates from MS.

Works for me.

[John Sukey (Deceased)]

Bill Gates and Sarah Brady are two of a kind. But I guess when you have a house the size of a small village (no joke),with a 200 car garage, you can afford to hire private security with guns.

[John L. Lucci]

Any one looking at buying a new computer might want to take a close look at some of the other operating systems,I fired this pc up Sat. a.m.,had 34 fixes and a Service Pack waiting to be downloaded and installed,took a couple of days,got on line this a.m. and had 4 more patches waitng to be downloaded and installed,I think Microsoft should offer an exchange of operating systems and get rid of this Vista.

RayP.

Most of the Vista bashers have not used it for any length of time and are often parroting what they have heard from other non-users. One caveat is that any PC running an "Operating system of the Masses" as opposed to an "Operating system of the Minority" (Apple OS X+, Linux) is perpetually under attack and will need patching. On consequences is it will need a high speed I-net connection time to time. If a machine has been offline a while (Most PC from major manufacturers and retailer qualify as they will be sitting in a warehouse for some time before you receive it.) It will need updating before you can really use it.

Win XP in comparison is a mature operating system and is nearing the end of its service life. In fact, on 4/14 Win XP slipped into long term support which means it will receive hot fixes only. There will be no more service packs or other changes. In short, it's a operating system on life support.

I use Vista Home Premium on my primary home system. Compared to XP it's much more stable. On a multi-monitor desktop installation the gadget bar which was added to Vista and XP lacks is extremely useful.

[John L. Lucci]

I don't know much about computers, but when the guys sold me mine, they told me, don't mess with Vista. So I stayed with XP.

Congrats they sold you an obsolescent operating system.

[Jim K]

I run two bootable drives; right now I am running Windows 98. (Well, it wasn't obsolete when I bought it!!) The other drive is XP Pro. I think I will hold off any upgrade until the dust settles.

Jim

[CTMC(ret)]

most I know who have (or had) both XP and Vista swear by XP and swear at Vista. Rolling a pc/laptop back to XP from Vista is BIG business in the computer shops. Just this w/e on a local computer call-in show, I heard Vista referred to as the "2nd ME" - a stopgap on the road to Windows 7. Which, by the way, is scheduled for release very soon (they just announced the RC1 version). I've [I]heard[I] that it (Win7) is gonna be the next XP - THAT is good news. So - if you're looking to buy a new pc/laptop - wait for Windows 7 (or, when you buy your new pc/laptop with Vista, ask if the manufacturer/retailer will upgrade to Windows 7 - and how much). I'm on a new pc - coulda had Vista, but that wasn't gonna happen. They offered me XP Pro or XP Pro x64. Chose the latter and never looked back (gotta remember XP Pro x64 is based on Windows Server 2003, not WinXP Pro - very reliable platform, and fast!).

Learn about Windows 7 here: Windows 7 News

[John L. Lucci]

most I know who have (or had) both XP and Vista swear by XP and swear at Vista. Rolling a pc/laptop back to XP from Vista is BIG business in the computer shops. Just this w/e on a local computer call-in show, I heard Vista referred to as the "2nd ME" - a stopgap on the road to Windows 7. Which, by the way, is scheduled for release very soon (they just announced the RC1 version). I've [I]heard[I] that it (Win7) is gonna be the next XP - THAT is good news. So - if you're looking to buy a new pc/laptop - wait for Windows 7 (or, when you buy your new pc/laptop with Vista, ask if the manufacturer/retailer will upgrade to Windows 7 - and how much). I'm on a new pc - coulda had Vista, but that wasn't gonna happen. They offered me XP Pro or XP Pro x64. Chose the latter and never looked back (gotta remember XP Pro x64 is based on Windows Server 2003, not WinXP Pro - very reliable platform, and fast!).

Learn about Windows 7 here: Windows 7 News

Okay, one must remember there were multiple flavors of Windows. And guess what? The whole code base is handed down from Windows server and workstation is not just one flavor or the other.

XP home/XP Pro descended Win2k workstation/Server and NT 4.0 workstation server which in turn descended from NT 3.51 XP Pro 64 is a cleaned up port of the 32-bit code.

I have to agree Windows 7 is going to be quite good. I've been beta testing it on a low-end (reads old) laptop (it's a Dell XPS M140) and it's been mostly stable. The driver for the Intel 915 video chipset has been a little dodgy though.

Thirdly, like you alluded even Vista is on the verge of being replaced, but the truth of the matter is Windows 7 is really Repackaged Vista sp3. Great features though! Including a win XP virtual mode it also has better diagnostic tools.

Also, for what it's worth I'm one sixth of IT support for a major University and I'm also technician for a local clone shop. So I have a good feel for what has been selling. I'll admit the first of the year we were building a lot more XP boxes; however, as the year progressed more and more people were opting for Vista and now that the new Intel i7 chips have been released we have been seeing a shift towards Vista 64.