Photo's of original shipping boxes?

[Joe P]

Howdy folks. I was wondering if anyone had photo's of original m1911 and m1911a1 shipping boxes that they could share.

My reason is that I was looking at a Remington-Rand the other day (in a shipping box), and even though it seemed to fit the style, the only stamping on the top cover of the box was the numbers 01-00040. I've seen examples of other Remington boxes and there are (as you all know) other stampings as well. Could this be a replacement box, counterfeit, or just a generic? Like I said, the style of the box, coloring, and attached tape seemed in line with the Remington boxes I'v seen that had other stampings.

Thanks for any info in advance.

Semper Fi,
Joe P

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[Johnny Peppers]

Several boxes have come on the market in the past year or so like the one you describe. They have machine printed numbers on the lid of the box, but I sent one of the numbers to Bill Ricca and he was unable to identify it as a miitary number.
Below is a boxed Remington Rand that came through the DCM in the 1962 time period. Several new in the box Remington Rands were sold at that time, and they come on the market from time to time. The logo is machine printed, and so far all the fakes have been ink stamped.

[Wick]

Sometime prior to WWI, my grandfather served in the Illinois National Guard. When he left, he took a v-e-r-y early Springfield 1911 with him. Years after his death, my uncle retrieved the pistol from grandma's attic and had it reblued and put on those Pachmyer black wrap-around grips (tears hit keyboard). Before my uncle passed away, I asked him about the pistol and he described it as being "in the box" when he got it from Grandma's attic.

Did Springfield use shipping boxes like we see from Colt, Rem Rand, and others? Has anyone ever seen a Springfield 1911 shipping box? If so, I'd LVOE to see a picture.

Thanks!!

[Duane Hansen]

I believe in the early days the pistols were shipped in wooden crates. The paper box thing didn't start until sometime around WWII time frame.

[Wick]

Thanks, Duane! Perhaps, then, my grandfather's pistol was just in "a box" and not "the box".

[Jim K]

Check me if I am wrong, guys, but I think they were originally shipped ten to a wood crate with partitions. I doubt anyone who "borrowed" a pistol would have brought the shipping box along even if he had it.

Jim

[Johnny Peppers]

As far as I know, the pistols were shipped 50 to a chest starting prior to WWI. In WWII 50 pistols in individual cartons were shipped in a chest. If you have Meadow's book there is a picture of a drawing for the markings for the arms chest for the Winchester 1911, and 50 pistols are noted on the chest.

[Nubber]

Boy you learn something everyday. I never knew Winchester made 1911's. I new they made 1917's, Carbines, Garands and shotguns.

[badabing]

Winchester didn't make 1911 pistols but I think they did get a contract as did others. They just never completed any pistols.