Winchester Stock W/ Milled M2 cut

[Bruce McAskill]

Jim, Your stock is a type 3 that went through a rebuild where the M2 switch was cut and the stock modifed to an M2. The P on the grip indicates that the carbine that was in the stock at the time was proof fired and the P stamped on the stock to note that. hth

[ScottR]

As Charlie pointed out the cartouche is a bad fake, the ghost cc is real.
Pictures of fake cartouches and fake parts should be saved for future reference.

Scott

[Jim Long]

Thanks all for the replies... I have added additional pics.. Sorry for not posting them when I started the thread..Charlie-painter you nailed it! Quote: "If your stamp is a real one, it's was most likely a type II Oval that has been cut down to a lo-wood and had the cut for the M2 added at that time or possibly later. Look for any sign of it being cut down from a Hi-wood to a Lo-wood. If there's no sign of it being cut down from a Hi-wood.....then someones bought a new stamp and been practicing."
Guys there is a distinct texture change and a slight step at the place where the low wood mods took place. I have taped the scale with the 1 inch mark at the point of the slight step and the 4.5 inch mark falls approximately where the modification ended equaling approx 3.5 inches length as per Reisch. I also included a longer view to show the relationship of the stamps to the oval cut and grip. Better view of the M2 cut can also be seen. So this stock is looking like a Type 2 modded to low wood and M2 .. What would possibly explain the ghost ord wheel? Where would the stock fall on the desirability/collectability scale?

[Mike in NC]

Hate to rain on any parade, but the fake cartouche brings the disirability and collectability way down. Several times I have stumbled across stocks that were degraded in value by someone getting creative with stamps. A worn stock with a slightly visible cartouche is worth much more than something that has been monkeyed with. The stock in question in this case has been cut down from highwood to low wood, then modified for M2 operation, then stamped with a fake cartouche. I don't think the WRA over GHD in a box ever was used on anything other than the highwood I cut stock so whoever stamped that fake stamp on a low wood oval cut stock didn't even make a logical fake. Up to the point of the fake stamp the stock had seen some interesting history.

[ScottR]

I did not see it the first time, but you can see the real ghost unboxed W.R.A/G.H.D. stamp. As Mike said the fake stamps has messed up the value.

Scott

[Jim Long]

Thanks guys.. BAD! Fake it is! That's why I posted this.. I had my suspisions too when I saw the ghost markings..