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    Parkerizing Receipe Solution

    G'day Guys,



    One of the proplems so far about living downunder is I can't source the factory made parkerizing solutions, well I can't find a retailer so far.
    Does anyone have a good receipe for a homemade black parkerizing solution. A tried and tested one would be good. I have searched the net, come across a few receipe's but most links are dead to the poster so I can't ask any questions to try and convert the products to products sold here.

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    no such thing as {black phosphate} do a search in your area for black oxide coatings,,youll find lots of companies, manganese phosphate or Zinc phosphate is what your looking for.
    dark grey is manganese, light grey is Zinc.
    most the chems made for phosphate coatings come from China, Chileicon ect..
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    took me 5 mins, to find this one,,, Metal Finishing

    the best tool is right at your finger tips,,,use it.,...youll find everything you need.
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    Thanks Chuck,

    Sorry about the incorrect terminologies and discriptions but I can only blame that best tool at our fingers. Sometimes when a person doesn't have a clue, like myself it can be more misleading.
    I can find people that will do it for me here, generally dearer than hot blueing. I'm after a solution I can make up myself and use on small projects as I believe you can get just as good finish.

    Myles

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    most black oxide suppliers also offer phospates as well.
    i dont know of any real stove top type mixes that really work very well...tried a few..then found that to do it right always works best...
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    Will Brownell's not export to Austrailia? Or is is the government that won't let in dangerous goods? I know we can get it here in Canadaicon, but it's expensive.
    Regards, Jim

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    I think it is the transportation problems of these style of chemicals making the factory mixed solutions not profitable.

    Myles

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    Regards, Jim

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    not sure, but id bet its the hazmat issue
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    I once accidentally achieved a grey "parkerized" look on a thread-cutting die that I put into a cup of "rust remover" (which is actually weak phosphoric acid) and forgetting it for several days.
    Zinc phosphate is available as a primer for painting on brass. Manganese phosphate is also used as primer for brass/steel.

    Most of the materials we need are available by the bucketful as industrial products for painters, furniture restorers, car body repairers, artists etc. A lot of chemicals may even be available from a dispensing chemist, if he knows you as a responsible person.

    Why pay someone a high price just to mix these together and sell it to you in a tiny little bottle as "specially for guns". The mix may be, the raw materials are not. Find out the ingredients you need, and try the sources for the above-named activities. Experiment with old bits of iron and steel until you are happy with the results. Just don't forget the items in the bucket - like I did! You should not need to import anything.

    Patrick
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