Warning to Australian Bayonet Collectors
This is one of the reasons why I joined Milsurps today. On ebay Australia a purported 1913 Lithgow Pattern 1907 Hook Quillon bayonet sold today for A$3,176.
The link is: Australian P1907 Lithgow Hooked Quillon bayonet. | eBay. If this link doesn't work then the item number is simply 110733004454.
A 1913 dated Australian Lithgow Hook is extremely rare and has some manufacturing differences to the later ones dated 1914 and 1915 and for that matter all later produced bayonets.
Several bayonet colleagues contacted me during the auction to seek my opinion as to its authenticity and express their concerns particularly in that the seller would not respond to emails or provide addional details and photos. I finally did get a response from the seller when I made an accusation regarding it being a fake saying that they would not accept a bid from me - yeah, as if !!
Ebay did nothing despite several independant complaints/reports - nothing unusual here !!
In my younger years I was caught with the odd fake and I only hope that this sale is not the start of more of these dubious bayonets. Would be interested to hear from anyone regarding general comments and in particular ways to get the message out there.
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I woudl be very interested in leanring more as to the differences between th e13 and later blades. It has been a while since i did an in depth look at the 1907 - its been nearly 10 years since i did my CD - and would like to hear how to tell. i woudl have hoped befrore someone spent that much money they woudl have had more info than the scant bit on the selelrs page.
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Australian P1907 Lithgow Hooked Quillon bayonet. | eBay
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Item specifics - Antiquities
Originating Region: Australia
Campaign: World War I
For sale is an Extremely Rare Australian P1907 Hooked Quillon bayonet with scabbard. Made at the Lithgow armoury in 1913 the first year of it's operation.
It is marked 2nd MD 24648 on the quillon, 2 A's in a star, X bend mark and L in a shield on the right ricasso and 1907 in a shield, Lithgow and 1913 on the left.
The bayonet is in good condition as is the scabbard which is leather, stitched on both sides and also marked Lithgow.
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i knew of th esquare fullers, and i also beleive the hook on the earlier ones is differetn or is it that the hooks on all Auastralian ones is slightly squarer then the UK ones. Mine is a 14 model,
to me that hook on the bayonet appears to be deeper than the on e on your Lithgow bayonets. Call me crazy if yo like but me thinks that the fish in denmark are getting a bit smelly!!!.
What's the feeling about this one an EFD from NZ...
Enfield 1907 smle .303 bayonet with quillion | eBay
Thought the clearance / oil hole happened when the quillon was removed?
The finish on the quillon is too different to that on the pommel or it could just be the photo.
But what do I know? Know enough to raise the question here amongst those who do.
Thanks in advance.
That's good stuff. Who knows if it was deliberate or not but it has saved someone buying a dud. We done for initiating the thread!