Strange Enforcer

[Simon P]

My barrel has this marking:

PAT APPLN No 15572/73.

This is on top of the barrel just behind the front sight.

[spinecracker]

My barrel has this marking:

PAT APPLN No 15572/73.

This is on top of the barrel just behind the front sight.

Yep, that's the one.

[Alan de Enfield]

I suppose the only surprise is that any were released at all! Must have been in the years before arse-covering in the authorities became all encompassing.

In my travels on the web looking for info on enforcers I've found a few similar requests:

http://www.suffolk.police.uk/NR/rdon...08/0/05396.pdf

http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:Y...&ct=clnk&gl=uk

http://www.hampshire.police.uk/NR/rd.../HC0015607.pdf

You'll be unsurprised to know they don't add greatly to your enforcer knowledge.

These are my requests under the FOI Act, you may note that Devon & Cornwall claim that all of their Enforcers (except one) were guillotined, I personally know of three ex D&C Police Enforcers so I raised the question with them again under the "not happy with your response system" - their reply was, "it was a long time ago and we do not have the records but we think they were destroyed".

How are we ever to get a handle on what really happened to the Enforcers, surely it would have been more honest to say "we dont know".

[rgg_7]

It would be great if the records were made public. The information may not exist; may be buried in the archieves or will not be made available under the legistlation your citing.

Start with one Force and have a face to face meeting. Show them the records you have and give an explaination for the request. I sure they're reasonable folks.

A M Stevens has a lot of info. have you contacted him. He's been at this a long time and been building a data base. His website is index.htm. I'm certain he'd be willing to share info.

I've been told by a few folks that between 60 and 70% were destroyed. Early on in the disposal program these were sold to clubs and other Gov't organizations. UK Police Forces obsoleted the Enforcer in the mid 1980's to be replaced by the M85.

If you have an Enforcer (#395) like the one Robert has you're very fortunate. It appears to be genuine. It's missing a few things however he's in the process of acquiring them.

Great rifle, Enjoy

Ron

[Alan de Enfield]

It would be great if the records were made public. The information may not exist; may be buried in the archieves or will not be made available under the legistlation your citing.

Start with one Force and have a face to face meeting. Show them the records you have and give an explaination for the request. I sure they're reasonable folks.

A M Stevens has a lot of info. have you contacted him. He's been at this a long time and been building a data base. His website is index.htm. I'm certain he'd be willing to share info.

I've been told by a few folks that between 60 and 70% were destroyed. Early on in the disposal program these were sold to clubs and other Gov't organizations. UK Police Forces obsoleted the Enforcer in the mid 1980's to be replaced by the M85.

If you have an Enforcer (#395) like the one Robert has you're very fortunate. It appears to be genuine. It's missing a few things however he's in the process of acquiring them.

Great rifle, Enjoy

Ron

Yes - I am fortunate as I currently own two (all complete) Enforcers (134 & 483) but 134 is on its way to a new home in Canada within the next few days.
Unfortunately 483 doesnt have the correct 70's bipod but other than that they are both 'correct'.
134 is the one at the rear of the picture.

[jmoore]

. UK Police Forces obsoleted the Enforcer in the mid 1980's to be replaced by the M85.

Ron

A bit OT, but did they actually buy sizable quantities of the M85? Are they still being used? I never knew that this platform got much past the "test and evaluation" phase.

[rgg_7]

I don't know the number purchased however I'd assume that it equaleed the Enforcer number. These are just being phased out by destruction. The M85 was also made available to the public and was assembled and/or sold in the USA by Gibbs.

[jmoore]

I've a British proofed M85 for several years now, that's not a "Gibb's". have one Parker-Hale one piece 1" scope bracket and one ruined 26mm bracket. Trying to find an appropriate scope.

Nice rifle, but they didn't work out all the "bugs", I think.

I guess its a good Enforcer stand-in, as I've never owned one of those!

[Gil Boyd]

Alan,
I know where there is an Enforcer 667 for sale at a great price if anyone's interested which is coincidentally a Devon & Cornwall rifle so they haven't got a clue what they are saying, and from my experience it is a case of the 360 degree wheel going around and current officers wouldn't have a clue what was crushed at the time, because they weren't there and not serving probably!!

[Warren]

Just remember that here was a number of Enforcers build up from parts. Not sure how many but I heard the number close to a dozen when the person involved popped off. I understand there was also a large number of parts other than receivers, however someone in the UK will probably know more on the disposition of the parts.