M94 Swedish Carbine

[roadjet]

I have a M94 Swedish Carbine dated 1898. The serial number is 6 117, however, the rest of the rifle is numbered 117 (bolt, butt plate, etc.). It's beautiful with no import marks. Wood is in excellent condition as well as the bore. It was manufactured by Carl Gustafs Stads Gevarsfatori. No bayonet lug. What do I have? Wife bought it for me at a pawn shop for $280. No, it has not been sporterized. The brass disc is missing. Email me at dominguy@sbcglobal.net and let me know what I have.

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[Badger]

What do I have?

Simply check the MKL and you'll find this piece ...

1907 m94/14 Swedish Carbine (click here)

Compare the 106 pic detailed photo montage against yours and you'd see what's missing.

A rare piece for Swedish collectors ...

Regards,
Doug

[roadjet]

Other than the brass disc and the lack of a bayonet lug, mine is complete. I understand some of these 94's came without bayonet lugs (Navy guns). I was wondering if mine was one of them. Also my serial number seems awfully low. Is there a website that will give me total numbers produced for my year? Any idea where I can find a replacement disc? Thanks for the information above, I enjoy reading about these early guns.

[Badger]

Do you have some pics you can post ? I think our members would love to see your carbine.

I'll see what I can find out on thte serial number.

Regards
Doug

[Patrick Chadwick]

You may have the m/94-96 version used by the Army Fortification Service and Army Engineers. This can be identified by a) no bayonet lug b) sling swivel on the butt is underneath, not at the side. They were converted from the normal carbine and are very rare - rarer than the standard model. The stock disc hole was also simply filled with with a brass plate, so it hasn't lost an original disc of the kind you know from the m/96 rifles - it never had one.

To be sure, we need good photos.

280 would be a steal for the normal carbine. For the Engineer's carbine - words fail me!

[Patrick Chadwick]

Because the carbines are attractive for collectors, they have been faked. Hence my use of the word may in bold italics. The abovemnentioned articel by Badger is not only very instructive, it also has a link to a site where you could find some information about fakes. Unfortunately, this further link does not work on my computer - maybe you will have better luck!.

---------- Post added at 03:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:08 PM ----------

Badger, it seems that you need to update the link

http://dutchman.rebooty.com/

as the link in your excellent article no longer functions!


Patrick

[Badger]

[/COLOR]Badger, it seems that you need to update the link ....

Fixed both links ... he must have moved his site to a new domain ...... thanks ...

Regards,
Doug

[Patrick Chadwick]

If you study http://dutchman.rebooty.com/fake.html
you will have a very good idea if your carbine is genuine. I hope it is - there's enough fakes around!

BTW - the numbering with the full number (in this case, only 4 digits) on major items and 3 (or even 2, because of space limitations) on other parts is normal.
However, 6xxx on a carbine should be from 1895, and on a rifle it would be from 1899. So a carbine marking 6117 and 1898 does not quite add up. Which is another reason to make photos - especially of the barrel ring - it may have been remarked when converted from the original carbine - if it is genuine.

Patrick

[roadjet]

How do I post pictures to this thread?

[Badger]

How do I post pictures to this thread?

It's pretty simple. Look at the top of any forum and you'll see "sticky" threads for help marked in BLUE, which go over the process (with pictures) step by step ...

How do I show pics from Photobucket, Flickr, ImageShack etc. on milsurps.com? (click here)

How do I upload pictures to my posts for storage on milsurps.com? (click here)

If you still can't figure out how to post pics, then simply email them to me at badger@milsurps.com and I'll host and post them for you under your name in this thread.

Regards,
Doug