Question concerning my new 1917.

[Sentryduty]

But we cheated the day we turned the M16 into the armory we sprayed carborator cleaner cuz they'd put the q-tip to everything any black and you had to clean it again.

I think this is pretty common in Western Armies, clean to the point of damaging the rifle. During courses, the crown of a C7 would have to be shiny and silver to pass inspection, a real pain to clean within the bounds of the approved field strip. Many enterprising soldiers jammed all manner of sharp scraper tools into the muzzle and crown of their rifle in search of that carbon-free inspection. Screwdrivers, dental picks, carpentry nails, and so on were pressed into service ruining the crown of our issued rifles.

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[browningautorifle]

the crown of a C7

When it first came into service, the older guys would use a bayonet blade to unscrew the FS to clean this...and sometimes break the Nella blade or over or under torque the FS...now they just disfigure. I guess that's better. (Peter is shaking his head)

[Sentryduty]

FS to clean this...and sometimes break the Nella blade

Seen that once, as well one time we had grossly over-torqued a BFA on a C9 LMG and the FS unscrewed instead.

How does this happen with that tiny BFA screw? Easy, spin the little plug all the way in to full, then hold the plug screw and counter spin the BFA body like a big jamb nut until even the biggest lad in the Platoon can't get it off. Then and only then is the C9 ready for excessive adverse setting firing with blanks.

As a responsible adult (civilian) am an entrusted with proper tools and just use the proper item to teardown my weapons. And the CQMS be damned, my muzzle will be as full with carbon as I please. LOL

[Todd2]

I think this is pretty common in Western Armies, clean to the point of damaging the rifle. During courses, the crown of a C7 would have to be shiny and silver to pass inspection, a real pain to clean within the bounds of the approved field strip. Many enterprising soldiers jammed all manner of sharp scraper tools into the muzzle and crown of their rifle in search of that carbon-free inspection. Screwdrivers, dental picks, carpentry nails, and so on were pressed into service ruining the crown of our issued rifles.

Kind of crazy. We cleaned the M16 for 3 days each time we fired it. And then the fact that the armorers q tip couldn't show any black I think that was overkill but I'm no expert.