Help! Scoped M44 shooting WAY low.

[kz1000]

I have an M44 scoped with an M4 & #5 mount. At 50yds, I have to aim 6" above the top of the target to hit the bottom of the target. The scope is set at 50yds. How to I the scope to sight in lower?

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[RogerFoxDog]

I'm not sure what an M4 scope is and a #5 mount but if this were my rifle I would add a shim to the saddle of the back mount to bring the rear of the tube up slightly. I use strips of plastic Coke bottles but some folks use strips of friction tape in the saddle and build it up until you have your scope realigned with the bore. I prefer the plastic strips because they don't seem to compress and deform like tape will. Also you can use strips from an aluminum soda can. Once aligned with or parallel to the bore you can now use your scope elevation adjustment to dial in you elevation. Some folks will have their gunsmith realign their mounts by milling one saddle ring or the other till bore alignment is achieved but it's always cheaper to try the shim method first.

[n64atlas]

the #5 mount is a side mount. Was the holes in the side done at the factory or did you have them drilled. You may have to elongate the rear hole on the mount to allow it to tilt the front of the scope down to get your elevation back.

[schliem]

Maybe the scope mount holes are a bit oversize, if so just loosen them a bit, push down on the front of the scope and at the same raise up at the rear of the scope. When you have done this tighten the bracket. Any slop in the holes will be in favor of making front of the scope go low. If this don't work then you may have to elongate the rear mounting hole as was suggested above. Slim

[Dave]

"The scope is set at 50 yards".


How do you set a M4 scope for 50 yds? Please explain! While I cannot find a #5 mount in my collection I know it is a very simple stamped metal mount with holes, thru the ears, for the scope rings to clamp to. All similar mounts I have, the forward RING (not the mount hole on the rifle) hole is elongated so the front of scope can be adjusted up or down. Messing with the rifle mount holes will not work as the reciever is curved, along with the mount base so it will always line up to this curve.

[kz1000]

"The scope is set at 50 yards".


How do you set a M4 scope for 50 yds? Please explain! While I cannot find a #5 mount in my collection I know it is a very simple stamped metal mount with holes, thru the ears, for the scope rings to clamp to. All similar mounts I have, the forward RING (not the mount hole on the rifle) hole is elongated so the front of scope can be adjusted up or down. Messing with the rifle mount holes will not work as the reciever is curved, along with the mount base so it will always line up to this curve.

With this knob:

[edlmann]

. . . #5 mount . . .

Let me go ahead and blurt out the obvious: If this is one of the sheet metal Mossberg mounts, it may be bent.

[Dave]

That "knob" is adjustable, you must FIRST sight the rifle in for 50 yrds., ignoring the knob, and then loosen the top serrated screw, slide the scale around until the pointer is at 50 and THEN tighten the top screw. Now you have a referance, which may or may not be correct when you move the knob to 75 yrds, for instance. And this will have to be done again if the scope is put on another rifle and even double checked if removed and replaced back on the same rifle.

The obvious is ---if the mount was bent it would throw windage off, not elevation.

[kz1000]

Thanks for the advice everyone.

[edlmann]

Let me go ahead and blurt out the obvious: If this is one of the sheet metal Mossberg mounts, it may be bent.

The obvious is ---if the mount was bent it would throw windage off, not elevation.

Having boogered up a number of things over the years, I believe I am perfectly capable of bending something to throw off both windage and/or elevation.