TheGunMag: "M1 Carbine the Most Versatile Rifle"

[M94/14]

[QUOTE=DaveHH;506739] But I need the little kit that comes with the bandoleer where is that little tool from the bandoleer?


If you're referring to the stripper clip guide that fits over the back of the mag when charging it, it's attached to the clips themselves, at least it is on all the ones I have...

[JohnnyDollar]

[QUOTE=jakester;506749]

But I need the little kit that comes with the bandoleer where is that little tool from the bandoleer?


If you're referring to the stripper clip guide that fits over the back of the mag when charging it, it's attached to the clips themselves, at least it is on all the ones I have...

I've bought re-pack kits both ways.
Listed as "old style" with the charger attached to each clip and "new style" with 1 charger per pack. They both work.

"New Style" being cheaper.

Of course "where is that little tool from the bandoleer?" could just as easily apply to reloading M16 magazines.

[DaveHH]

Of course "where is that little tool from the bandoleer?" could just as easily apply to reloading M16icon magazines.

Difference being that the average 11B was carrying 400 rds and bandoleers were filled with 7 20 rd magazines full of ammunition.

[JohnnyDollar]

Difference being that the average 11B was carrying 400 rds and bandoleers were filled with 7 20 rd magazines full of ammunition.

OK, I guess I'm not getting your point,
all I meant was that M1 Carbine magazines are reloadable from stripper clips.
.30 Carbine ammo was generally loaded on 10 rnd stripper clips which have an integrated guide on each clip, so there is no searching for the guide.
At least, that is how all my surplus Korean .30carbine always came.

[eb in oregon]

OK, I guess I'm not getting your point,
all I meant was that M1 Carbine magazines are reloadable from stripper clips.
.30 Carbine ammo was generally loaded on 10 rnd stripper clips which have an integrated guide on each clip, so there is no searching for the guide.
At least, that is how all my surplus Korean .30carbine always came.

Really, only a "Newbi" goes into combat without more loaded magazines than he should carry and the gear to recharge those magazines is usually closely inspected before walking out the wire.

[JohnnyDollar]

Really, only a "Newbi" goes into combat without more loaded magazines than he should carry and the gear to recharge those magazines is usually closely inspected before walking out the wire.

Exactly,
The the army basic load for an M1/M2 Carbine issued with 30rnd magazines was 7 magazines. 1 in the rifle and 3 in each pouch for a total of 210rnds.
I'm sure guys carried more magazines.

However, if guys were given 2 magazines (60rds) and told to reload them in the field,
that is not really an issue with the carbine, that's a supply and/or leadership problem.

The fact that the Carbine was issued and used in ways it was never designed for, kind of speaks to the posted article about the M1 Carbine being versatile.

[DaveHH]

Hi Johnny, I got exactly what you were saying, and you are completely correct. I mention this problem because of what I read in SLAM's writing ( "Pork Chop Hill" "The River and the Gauntlet" etc.) on Korea. My comments are just aimed at the carbine as a full automatic weapon.

[JohnnyDollar]

Hi Johnny, I got exactly what you were saying, and you are completely correct. I mention this problem because of what I read in SLAM's writing ( "Pork Chop Hill" "The River and the Gauntlet" etc.) on Korea. My comments are just aimed at the carbine as a full automatic weapon.

Gotcha.

From what I have read, the M2 was not easy to control on full auto.

[eb in oregon]

Gotcha.

From what I have read, the M2 was not easy to control on full auto.

Actually it is very controlable. Far easier than an M16E1 in my experience. Like all automatic weapons, it's not merely the volume of fire, it's controlled automatic fire. Pull the trigger and spray, well, that's not good. Controlled bursts only, and that's only when they are right on top of you if a "Grunt" and not the machine gunner. His job is to lay down suppressive fire while riflemen seek to deliver decisive shots.

[jimb16]

I used to have a registered M2. It was very easy to control. I've shot many different full autos and the M2 was among the easiest to handle in full auto mode.