criterion garand barrel

[AKA Hugh Uno]

Hugh, do you have one of these barrels or are you just guessing?
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Your INITIAL question (i.e. "what can I expect from XX commercial barrel") rests upon a rather weak premise. You seem to expect a certain degree of inherent accuracy, and/or superior accuracy from the barrel alone. BULLET is FAR FAR more important than barrel.

As far as accuracy goes, even from a Krieger USGI/JCG legal rifle, truly superior as this may be, I would never "expect" more than a QUARTER MOA advantage/improvement over a crisp tight new USGI SA barrel. If these barrels actually offered significant inherent accuracy (say more than 1/2 MOA), everyone would use them at Camp Perry and the winners circle would have NOTHING else. Thankfully, that is NOT the case.

HEAVY match barrels from Douglas or Krieger may have a bit more inherent advantage because they are STIFFER, but in a fully tuned match gun, the difference between say my Clint Fowler match M1 with a USGI barrel and the exact saME rifle with a heavy match barrel would probably NOT exceed 1/4 MOA! The real; advantage with the heavy barel is that as the match progresses, the heavy barrel would heat up less and be a bit more consistent, plus wobble less (heavier), and likely stay accurate a few thousand rounds longer.

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Oh, and I have owned several custom/commercial barreled match M1s and M1As over the years and still do.

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[JBS]

Hugh, do you have one of these barrels or are you just guessing?
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Your INITIAL question (i.e. "what can I expect from XX commercial barrel") rests upon a rather weak premise. You seem to expect a certain degree of inherent accuracy, and/or superior accuracy from the barrel alone. BULLET is FAR FAR more important than barrel.

As far as accuracy goes, even from a Krieger USGI/JCG legal rifle, truly superior as this may be, I would never "expect" more than a QUARTER MOA advantage/improvement over a crisp tight new USGI SA barrel. If these barrels actually offered significant inherent accuracy (say more than 1/2 MOA), everyone would use them at Camp Perry and the winners circle would have NOTHING else. Thankfully, that is NOT the case.

HEAVY match barrels from Douglas or Krieger may have a bit more inherent advantage because they are STIFFER, but in a fully tuned match gun, the difference between say my Clint Fowler match M1 with a USGI barrel and the exact saME rifle with a heavy match barrel would probably NOT exceed 1/4 MOA! The real; advantage with the heavy barel is that as the match progresses, the heavy barrel would heat up less and be a bit more consistent, plus wobble less (heavier), and likely stay accurate a few thousand rounds longer.

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Oh, and I have owned several custom/commercial barreled match M1s and M1As over the years and still do.

You just can’t help yourself can you. You have to thump your chest and be first and last word and gods gift to all things with an “M”. Your contributions to this forum are about 95 percent negative or to use your words Poo-Poo. It look as though you came from the old Jouster forum, why don’t you take your megalomania and delusions of grandeur and go back there so that these good people can have a productive discussion about improving the performance of their Garands.