Parker Hale t.z. 4/47 on one of my No4: fashion faux-pas?

[louthepou]

Hi everyone,

Recently, two peculiar things found their way into my house. Here's one of them: a Parker Hale target sight, model T.Z. 4/47.


It is for the 7.62 Nato round. How much of a "fashion faux-pas" would it be if I fitted this on one of my No4's shooting .303Br?

Similarly, I also have a T.Z. 3/53, sitting on a barreled action composed of a M1917 action and a heavy barrel chambered for the 7.62 Nato. Could this rear sight be at home on one of my P14?

Thanks for any input, this Parker Hale target sight stuff is quite new to me...

Lou

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[jmoore]

Go ahead and play! The two rounds are similar, but neither one ever seems to work out exactly to the hash marks. Just count clicks and record in a range data book. Be sure to include temps, round types, sun (direction and degree of cloudiness), shooting position, sling use, ad nauseum!

Sounds like the M1917 just needs a target stock and such. The sight will fit either, but it seems the 7.62 barreled thing is more appropriate.

[Alan de Enfield]

AJ Parker 4/47 TZ Sight

The TZ4/47 does not pull the elevation screw into engagement in line with the barrel like the 5C (which leads to a twisting effect in engagement of the rising dovetail). Instead a strong spring loaded lever pushes the screw (and the rising dovetail) sideways out from the action. This maintains good bearings on both side of the rising dovetail and equalises wear.

Unlike the 5C you don't have to undo/retighten the lock screw to adjust the elevation setting. A better functioning and better built sight than the 5C in all respects


I've had both a 4/47 and a 5C on my Savage No4 Mk1* and to be honest, for my standard of shooting, there is no difference at 100yds.

[louthepou]

Thanks guys. Here's the M1917 with its PH installed (it has a neat stock):

[jmoore]

If it has a good bedding job, bore, trigger, and speed lock (in decreasing order of importance-roughly) then it ought to be a fine range rifle. A bit old school, but that's the appeal, unless you are really wanting to play w/ the big dogs.

ETA Its interesting in that the rear sight protecting ears are still intact. That's usually one of the first things to go!
ETA some more: If that was a new design, that would make a great place to put one of those Doctor Optic sort of things. Add a ballistic compensator computer thinggy for the long shots....

[louthepou]

Yeah, I guess you could very appropriately say I'm pretty old school!

Thanks JM,

Lou

[RJW NZ]

And FYI, when I placed a parker hale elevation scale for a 303 and 7.62 side by side, the distance marks are in almost identical places until you get over 4-500 yards, then ultimately at max range the 7.62 carries a bit further than the 303.

[Surpmil]

Hammer-forged L39/L42/Enforcer/Envoy barrel on an M17. Should be quite a combo!

Lots of people would like your 7.62mm TZ for their DCRA conversions so you should have no trouble trading it for a minty .303 model.

Or of course you might like to keep it for your own .308 No4...

The no-drill AJP sight for the P14/M17 is out there as well. Of course if it's already drilled then 'do what you feel'.