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    AJ Parker M80 sight

    Recently saw a reference to an A J Parker M80 sight for Enfields. I can find no information about this sight.

    Anyone able to fill me in?

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    Not M 80 but TZ 4/80

    The A.J. Parker TZ 4/80 was an updated version of the TZ 4/47 for the Lee-Enfield No. 4. It was the last of the TZ line.
    I presume that is the sight you are referrring to.

    Patrick

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    The TZ 4/80 moved to a scale calibrated to 7.62mm NATO (144gn ball); most of the TZ 4/47s still had a .303 scale. In practice, target shooters mostly used the minutes adjustment and didn't use the range scales at all.

    I think the M80 is actually the modular 7.62mm sight that fits on a range of adaptor plates for different actions - the equivalent of the PH5E4 sight.
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    I think the AJP TZ 4/80 also has 1/4 minute adjustment as compared to the 4/47 which has 1/2 minute adjustment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Dickicon View Post
    I think the AJP TZ 4/80 also has 1/4 minute adjustment as compared to the 4/47 which has 1/2 minute adjustment.
    Nothing so simple!

    I've got 4/47 (303 scale) in both 1/2 and 1/4 minute, 4/47 (762 scale) in 1/4 minute scale, and a couple of 4/80 in 1/4 minutes.

    Some of the above are in their original boxes; they just have "1/2 minute" or "1/4 minute" written on the label.

    I have no idea why AJP and PH competed to see how many different sights they could get under one model number - I must have about ten different types of "PH5C", as well as "PH5CD" and "PH5D" sights that are still identical to other PH5C models...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    The A.J. Parker TZ 4/80 was an updated version of the TZ 4/47 for the Lee-Enfield No. 4. It was the last of the TZ line.
    I presume that is the sight you are referrring to.

    Patrick
    No thise was definitely a "twin zero M80". It might be the same item, but the nomenclature was definitely "M80"

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    This is a picture of the "Twin Zero M80".


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    If any ones got Edna Parkers book "A century of Sights & Sighting Aids" the M80 is on page 39

    It is described as the "1980s model sight that will adapt to numerous actions & brackets"
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