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    Early A4 on GB

    Someone might snatch this one up. Looks like one of the early C-stocks to me. "Battle-scarred", but I kinda like it. Looks like it's been through rebuild, the barrel seems too late for the serial #.

    Question - When an A4 went through rebuild, and received a new barrel, did it get a new "A4" barrel, or an A3 barrel with sight base removed?

    What other parts are not "original"? WWII 1903 Springfield 1903A4 Sniper Rifle M73B1 : Curios and Relics at GunBroker.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike D View Post
    Someone might snatch this one up. Looks like one of the early C-stocks to me. "Battle-scarred", but I kinda like it. Looks like it's been through rebuild, the barrel seems too late for the serial #.

    Question - When an A4 went through rebuild, and received a new barrel, did it get a new "A4" barrel, or an A3 barrel with sight base removed?

    What other parts are not "original"? WWII 1903 Springfield 1903A4 Sniper Rifle M73B1 : Curios and Relics at GunBroker.com
    (1) An '03-A4 received a replacement A4 barrel if one was available. And in most cases, spare A4 barrels were available at facilities that overhauled '03-A4 rifles.

    (2) The buttplate and bolt sleeve/firing pin assembly has been replaced.

    J.B.

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    The magazine box/trigger guard assembly was also replaced. The scope is a late model M73B1.

    Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGaynor View Post
    The magazine box/trigger guard assembly was also replaced.

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    Are you sure? The trigger guard looks original to me. Refinished perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Beardicon View Post
    Are you sure? It looks original to me. Refinished perhaps.

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    JB - I'll not comment on the TG but JGaynor is correct about the scope appearing to be a late model M73B1 except its a parts scope since it doesn't have a serial # engraved on the Data Plate. (Pic # 4)
    Also in Picture # 10 you can see where the scope tube is stamped/engraved with "Serial" followed by a partial engraved series of numbers, typical of an earlier Type 1 or 2 scope marking, not a type 3 (late) M73B1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Haas View Post
    JB - I'll not comment on the TG but JGaynor is correct about the scope appearing to be a late model M73B1 except its a parts scope since it doesn't have a serial # engraved on the Data Plate. (Pic # 4)
    Also in Picture # 10 you can see where the scope tube is stamped/engraved with "Serial" followed by a partial engraved series of numbers, typical of an earlier Type 1 or 2 scope marking, not a type 3 (late) M73B1.

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    My comment was with regard to the trigger guard. Please pardon my lack of clarity. I have edited my posting.

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    John, i believe an A4 with an S/N that low would date to about March or April 43 and should therefore have a small bow TG. i agree with your comments regarding the wear and overall appearance.
    Some of the other rifles in my data in that s/n range also have Large bow guards but they have other indications of a rebuild such as depot stock markings and/or early 1944 barrels.

    Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGaynor View Post
    John, i believe an A4 with an S/N that low would date to about March or April 43 and should therefore have a small bow TG. i agree with your comments regarding the wear and overall appearance.
    Some of the other rifles in my data in that s/n range also have Large bow guards but they have other indications of a rebuild such as depot stock markings and/or early 1944 barrels.

    Regards,

    Jim
    You are correct. I stand corrected. My comment was based on the barrel date. I should have paid closer attention to the serial number. The rifle has apparently been re-barreled, probably during overhaul.

    Thanks for the correction!

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    rebuilt rifle, barrel, trigger guard, stock, scope, and a few other bands ect are replaced. however, fair price for a complete A4
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckindenver View Post
    rebuilt rifle, barrel, trigger guard, stock, scope, and a few other bands ect are replaced. however, fair price for a complete A4
    Be interesting to see if the auction breaks the "buy it now" price. i wish there were better pics of the stock markings.

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