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    Followup on 1903A4 questions with photos

    I recently purchased a 1903A4 (markings are in the correct location). The SN range is 3409172. The barrel is RA 12-43, two-grooved. Both receiver and barrel are the common gray/green pakerizing. It has not been reparked (IMHO). All marked parts are marked R. The stock has the correct markings forward of the trigger guard. It came in a CMPicon box, but with no paperwork. Questions:
    1. What shade of parkerizing should the bolt have? bolt shroud? striker rod?
    2. What shade of parkerizing should the buttplate have?
    3. What shade of parkerizing should the bands have?
    4. Is the barrel correct for the SN?
    5. What type of 7/8" rings were used with the Lyman Alaskan (top split or two piece)? And, when were the two types of 7/8" rings used?
    6. What value range would this piece fall in (wood and metal, including bore, are excellent)?
    This is a lot of information to be asking for, and I do apprecieate any comments that can be provided. --RBruce
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    More photos

    Please ignore the 1 inch rings and electrical tape on the Lyman scope. My 7/8 inch rings were at the gunsmith being installed on a 1903A4 clone. They'll be moving here shortly.
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    Two more questions

    Did the Lyman Alaskan with medium a crosshair reticle preceed the post reticle? Which would be more correct for a post WWII or Korean War 1903A4? --TIA

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    Great looking rifle. The rings are not correct. I believe you have Burris rings on the rifle. Is there a serial number on the scope?

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    RBruce thanks for posting the pictures.

    The M73 version of the Lyman Alaskan was standardized in 1943 with a fine crosswire reticle similar to that of the M73B1 (Weaver 330). At least their are engineering shop drawings that date from Sept 43.

    The post reticle was introduced with the M82 scope in early 1945. As mentioned before the M81(crosswire) and M82(post) incorporated a sliding sunshade on the objective lens and a rubber eyeshield.


    The following picture is from an Oct 1943 Tech manual and illustrates, in the lower picture, an M73 mounted in the top split rings. (NB: The original caption writer made a mistake in the nomenclature - The upper picture shows the Weaver 330C (M73B1) and the lower should have been labeled M73).




    The stock appears to have traces of the factory inspection stamps(RA and Boxed FJA) which is good.

    Is there a letter stamped in the cutoff notch ?

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    As I mentioned, ignore the rings. I just had them there to show the scope. Yes, the serial number on the scope is 26476.

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    Yes, there is an S in the cutoff notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBruce View Post
    Yes, there is an S in the cutoff notch.
    The "S" indicates Springfield Arsenal manufacture. The stock is of the correct type for a rifle in that s/n range.

    Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGaynor View Post
    The "S" indicates Springfield Arsenal manufacture. The stock is of the correct type for a rifle in that s/n range.

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    Jim - Per John Beardicon the "S" in the cutoff slot does not always mean a Springfield manufactured stock. While the presence of Cartouches and sub-inspector marks on this stock make it likely so, I'd like to see pictures of the top of the stock looking into the reciever area. Particularily of the trigger slot and front triggerguard /handguard area.

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    if the rifle was indeed sold by the CMPicon and not he DCM,
    they will give you paperwork at no charge..
    they have no DCM records that i know of.

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