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At $2000.00 each, the seller would have to have for sale 1750 carbines. I believe he might be a little shy.
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02-14-2014 03:51 PM
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JimF must be right. This has to be a joker asking $3.5M on ebay - for anything. But, things are getting crazy out there and it could be serious. It only takes one buyer with unlimited funds and the momentary itch, and then it's free Bubble-Up and rainbow stew. The following GB auction was posted by USGI in another thread today:
Mint, Unissued WWII Inland M1 Carbine, c. 1944 : Curios & Relics at GunBroker.com
This appears to be a real purchase and I simply cannot believe anybody who knows or cares would spend $4K+ on that carbine. For God's sake the seller didn't even feel the need to polish the slide track a little so it at least looks a little used after 70 years. Barrels on eBay are selling for nearly $400 and barreled actions for more than the price of the last service grade CMP carbines sold.
I for one would like to hear a discussion on what has really been happening in the last year or so market-wise and where this hobby may be going. If people are willing to pay ungodly prices for junk that looks pretty, can this devalue the real thing that does not look so pretty? I am sure the last CMP sale had a lot to do with this bull market but I don't know what other factors are at work. Just some thoughts. ChipS
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I don't see anything wrong with the Inland in your Link, In fact it does look like a Mint, possibly even Museum Grade Carbine. If you want one that nice, your gonna have to Slap Leather, and pay. That Carbine hasn't had too many rounds through it if any. And it was Marketed well in description and photos. And yes that is a lot of money, but someone got them a Super-Nice Inland !
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My dad told me at an early age it only cost 99.9% more to go first class
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I respectfully disagree. ChipS
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What do you see wrong Chip? I'm not an expert on Inlands, but I didn't see anything that stuck out.
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What do you see wrong Chip?
I'm not an expert on Inlands either, so maybe some others will comment (to the appropriate degree) on whether the parts appear to be legit. I was pretty harsh in my criticism above and I didn't think at the time that someone here might have purchased this carbine (open mouth and insert foot). Momma said if you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all, but there is point I was trying (perhaps clumsily) to make. I will not go into details (right or wrong) that I think might help the fakers, but since you asked I will respond in general as follows:
In my opinion most of the major metal parts have been blasted and re-parked, over shallow pitting in some areas, excluding the barrel which appears to be a very nice original finish replacement. I do detect front sight removal marks on the edge of the muzzle and the band looks repro to me. The amount of wear on most of the moving parts is not consistent with the "near mint" condition of the whole and the safety and mag catch I am pretty sure are reproductions (and not very good ones). I think the rear sight is a good repro and I won't say why. Why would the barrel/receiver index marks not align on a 'near mint' factory example? The safety/mag catch plunger assembly is the later type not produce until about 3-4 months after the date of the carbine. Why after 70 years are there absolutely no scratches/mars on the butt plate? The stock I believe is a reproduction, or perhaps unissued USGI replacemnt wood, that I believe clearly has been lightly sanded to remove 50-60 years of oxidation and the 'correct' Inland stamps applied. I don't remember a good pic of a key area of USGI stock configuration - maybe on purpose. I don't know about the sling because there are good (real) and bad (fake) features and I would definitely like comments from others on this. I believe there are other problems but this reply is already too long and I may have said too much now.
I think it is a very pretty carbine and quite represenataive of the period. But in my mind it is just another put together piece and not worth a quarter of what it sold for. But, the photos may be deceiving me and my reasoning is not above reproach. My skin got thick a long time ago and I welcome any comments intended to staighten me out if I am wrong. I would not have posted this in the open but I want feedback and hopefully I have not provided any helpful hints that were heretofore unknown to the bad guys. JMHO, ChipS
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Chip,
After going back and looking closer, I do see the light pitting on the under side of the receiver now, very light but I see it. The index marks are off, not very much, maybe a .001 or 2. You have good eyes. Lets see what others say. They ain't getting any cheaper, that's for sure !
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V 8's and carbines ?
I found changing No.8 spark plug on my Dads Holden Statesman easier if I wriggled under the car on the ground to do it from below even with a special ratchet designed for V'8's it was rather frustrating, as for the Carbines I would rather pay for this collection. And what treasures lie in those cupboards..............
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