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It is a fair bet that every carbine that was used by Marine assault troops and shot a lot was rebuilt and rebarreled prior to the Korean war. Thus the SA barrels and mixed brand barrels found frequently. The rest got a new rear sight and bayonet lug and if they had a type 2 band, and late sight many were left as is. 6.5M is a lot of weapons.
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06-16-2016 04:45 PM
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The production numbers of USGI M1 Carbines are very close to that of accounting for every Glock pistol built to date, (5 million in 2007) I doubt that in 2066 there will be any need to build a (then) modern Glock clone to fill the market. There will be enough to go around.
Snapshot in time, basic USGI/Old Commercial M1 Carbines are selling at the $425-600 price point in Canada for something that goes bang.
Collector models might draw more but for a field grade shooter that is the buy-in point.
- Darren
1 PL West Nova Scotia Regiment 2000-2003
1 BN Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry 2003-2013
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My 6 digit Inland was a "white Bag" gun. It is a mix-master that was rebuilt in the 1950s, and refinished with the almost black manganese phosphate parkerizing. It has a new, undated (year only stamped) Underwood barrel with an ME of "0". While it is in an Inland high wood stock, it is not the stock that was on it when it came out of the VCI storage bag. The prior owner kept that stock because it was so clean, and gave me the sanded Inland instead.
I would rather have it than ANY commercial carbine, new or old. My dad carried an Inland M1 Carbine on Iwo Jima, so I am partial to Inlands (fortunately, he didn't carry an IP. LOL!)
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People are always coming up with reasonable solutions to non existent problems.
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Originally Posted by
DaveHH
People are always coming up with reasonable solutions to non existent problems.
LOL! How true! I always thought the 1980s full size Chevy Blazers were the answer to a question that was never asked! That was especially true after I was stupid enough to buy one anyway!
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Pricing on everything changes with time. If nothing else inflation factors. In the early 80's Carbines were around $100. When the Blue Sky and other returning weapons showed up around 1987 they were $79.00 each in bulk.
Dave mentioned the 6,000 round acceptance testing. I'm sure some have, though I would guess most guys haven't fired that many rounds through a single carbine. Owning way too many, I don't think I have.
There are still closet finds, but fewer as grandpa passes on. And there are shooters and collectable choices readily available. Fair pricing to someone, may not be to another person. We all have our thoughts on value.
Proven over 70 years, verses issues right out of the box. Doesn't seem like a tough choice to me.
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Thank You to JimF4M1s (Deceased) For This Useful Post:
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I remember a friend talking about changing his barrel way back in the '70s because he thought it was weak...he could envision metal leaving the barrel every shot...I told him it was fine and just leave it. The idea was just silly...
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USGI carbines are still very common, even in Kalifornistan, where they are sought after because they are "featureless" and don't need bullet buttons. We have two small local gun shops in town, and both usually have at least one USGI M1 Carbine on the shelves, even with the low level panic buying that is going on now. Generally they are $900 to $1100, though usually about $900 to $950 for decent condition mixmasters. One has a really nice Underwood for $950 at the moment. While not cheap by any standard, they are still real USGI, look to be decent shooters, and far less than the current questionable ones.
Like I said, I think the new Inlands are "An answer to a question that wasn't asked". The Plainfileds, (and even Auto Ordnance, originally) were price point cheaper than USGIs. Paying the same price for a problematic replica, that you could buy an unmolested, un-rebuilt original for does not make sense.
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The availability of cheap ammo was a serious consideration
I worked for the phone company for 40 years and in the 80s we had a call to do some work on a guy's house in Petaluma. He was a retired Air Force guy. He wouldn't let us under the house but finally said it was OK. The whole crawl space was packed with cases of carbine ammo. thousands of rounds, hundreds of thousands of rounds. He was taking a few home every week. I should have extorted a few cases from him but I was too honest. Imagine how much of that stuff was out in the 50-60's? My friends in the NG were doing the same thing with M1 clipped AP under orders to take it home. SL 53 fabulous ammunition by the case.
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Originally Posted by
DaveHH
cheap ammo was a serious consideration
Very much so, it was for us also...depending on the time of the century, the guys all had .303s or 308s...
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