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    I know more then few post here so I will ask. Was at a car show on the 4th. and saw a 427 Cobra roadster (Shelby, of course). I gave it a pretty good look and asked the owner who made the kit. He got very indignet and said it was not a kit, it was a real one. "Look at the vin plate in in the engine compartment". I did and it looked genuine, but what do I know? Besdes it could have came from a wreck and I think repros are available. #2988. Possible! What throws me is it is for sale at 41,000. Now I know these sold for ALLOT more some time back so it makes me doubt the car is "real". I questioned the price being so low but the guy just would not answer me (He was pi**ed). His wife said they were not worth more.
    Now the question which I know cannot be answered possitively. Think this is a kit? Just a hell of a bargain? What are they currently going for? I saw a 66 Shelby Mustang go for 200,000 few months back at auction. I used to own one, sold it in 1979 (stupid is as stupid does!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    I know more then few post here so I will ask. Was at a car show on the 4th. and saw a 427 Cobra roadster (Shelby, of course). I gave it a pretty good look and asked the owner who made the kit. He got very indignet and said it was not a kit, it was a real one. "Look at the vin plate in in the engine compartment". I did and it looked genuine, but what do I know? Besdes it could have came from a wreck and I think repros are available. #2988. Possible! What throws me is it is for sale at 41,000. Now I know these sold for ALLOT more some time back so it makes me doubt the car is "real". I questioned the price being so low but the guy just would not answer me (He was pi**ed). His wife said they were not worth more.
    Now the question which I know cannot be answered possitively. Think this is a kit? Just a hell of a bargain? What are they currently going for? I saw a 66 Shelby Mustang go for 200,000 few months back at auction. I used to own one, sold it in 1979 (stupid is as stupid does!)
    I don't know enough to say authoritatively but $41k seems awfully low for a real, non-kit 427 Shelby Cobra roadster. 'Less'n there was something really badly wrong with it, anyway.

    And rather than being annoyed & refusing to talk to you I would have taken the opportunity to "educate" the "customer" by pointing out the features that proved that it wasn't a kit car.

    He seemingly acted like he had been caught smokin' in the boys' room by adopting the time-honoured tactic of "deny, deny, deny" & "attack the accuser".

    Of course I could be TOTALLY wrong here. Maybe you were the 10th person who had asked the same question in the last 20 minutes & he chose to go off on you. Dunno.

    I look forward to other opinions chiming in!

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    I agree that his attitude sort of indicated he was blowing smoke. I go to allot of car shows and have never seen a real live Cobra 427 except at Shelby Amer. Club events. Allot of kits. I can't afford even 41 grand but if I knew it was real I would borrow the money just to re sell. They had issues from the get-go (weak frnt suspention for one) but they are rare and in demand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    I know more then few post here so I will ask. Was at a car show on the 4th. and saw a 427 Cobra roadster (Shelby, of course). I gave it a pretty good look and asked the owner who made the kit. He got very indignet and said it was not a kit, it was a real one. "Look at the vin plate in in the engine compartment". I did and it looked genuine, but what do I know? Besdes it could have came from a wreck and I think repros are available. #2988. Possible! What throws me is it is for sale at 41,000. Now I know these sold for ALLOT more some time back so it makes me doubt the car is "real". I questioned the price being so low but the guy just would not answer me (He was pi**ed). His wife said they were not worth more.
    Now the question which I know cannot be answered possitively. Think this is a kit? Just a hell of a bargain? What are they currently going for? I saw a 66 Shelby Mustang go for 200,000 few months back at auction. I used to own one, sold it in 1979 (stupid is as stupid does!)
    Well,if the body was fiberlgass it would have to be a kit. If the body is beaten aluminum it ups the ante and could be the real McCoy. As for the price. Who knows? He could be just looking to get out from under it or selling it for what he originally paid for it.

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    never thought about checking body material. darn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    never thought about checking body material. darn!
    If you're hot to buy it (or at least to confirm suspicions) I'd smooth over the owners ruffled feathers so you can get another look at it. Also, body material is not fool proof. I know there is one kit-maker who has the original body bucks from AC Cars Ltd. and makes/made bodies off of them. (At least they were doing so in the late '80s)
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    To find out if it might be an original,check with one of the Cobra clubs,they would have info on the known originals that are out there and how to tell if one is a kit or clone.

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    You can buy some pretty exotic guns for 41K

    AND you don't have to worry about some idiot hitting them while texting his girlfriend.

    Wonder what theinsurance premiums would be?

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    shelby kits cost roughly 25k for the kit... Just saw an ad somewhere with all sorts of kit cars readily avalible.

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    Yes, some of the better kits will run 60-70 grand, complete, with a 351 or other engine.

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