Oil Soaked Stock

[AKA Hugh Uno]

and it's ad hominem ARGUMENT (technically "argumentum ad personam").

In order for there to be an ad hominem reply, there must be a HOMINEM responded to with a derisive personal comment.

Had I said, "Joe Smoe, YOU have only a double-digit IQ," THAT would qualify.
Since I SPECIFICALLY stated:

1. Rick, I disagree.
2. RIck, I understood what you said the first time
AND THEN
3. I said, it would not be recommended for ANYONE with a double digit IQ (as in anyone ELSE as in 3rd parties).

I suspect this is just a matter (at least in part) of whose "ox has been gored" and some folks taking it personally.

[Rick the Librarian]

Just a reminder that honest disagreement is allowed -- personal attacks are not.

[Rick the Librarian]

Don't have any problem with folks who DO use this method or those that don't. Just know when the boundary cannot be crossed.

[AKA Hugh Uno]

[It looks like your admitting oven cleaner is caustic.
I don't try to get a milsurp looking brand knew. I like it clean but leave the been there done that look.

Have a good one
Doug[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Sure, it's caustic. And vodka is poison if you drink too much of it?

so what?

here is the typical warning for "non-caustic" woood striper:

hmm, cancer, brain-damage, burns, birth-defects, flammability, blindness.

thanks, but I will stick with "caustic" (but comparably much safer) oven cleaner.

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[Bill Hollinger]

Hugh Uno, you are just not getting the picture here. I'm starting to wonder why. Your method is great, I've used it on a number of stocks myself. Chuck does not think so. Okay fine, the comment about the double digit IQ was an attack that was implied. Albeit, not to any one person but to all who did not agree with your line of thinking. Please refrain from this type of reply. Choose your words carefully. You have some great ideas and are valued as a great contributor to this site. Don't cloud that with stabs however slight they may be. Thank you.

[AKA Hugh Uno]

Fine Bill, I thought this had been worked out via PM.

But, don't you honestly think that there is a bit of a double standard here?

Hughno makes an "implied" attack and in REPLY, someone else makes the following statements:

1. "why do your posts always end up with a personal attack on someone?"

(This seems like an EXPRESS and false and insulting statement).

2. "is it possible to just give some advise, agree to disagree with someone and move on."

(ditto, does not seem very "nice" to me)

3. "why does it have to be a long drawn out deal,"

(ditto)

4. "if you dont like the people here, and think your better, then the answer is simple...move on to another forum, or better yet, start your own."

Hmmm, I don't particularly care to be told to "go away."

Doesn]'t THAT qualify as RUDE??

I fully understand that Chuck adds value by contribution and may be your friend, but, don't messages like THIS also cross that line? I'm a big boy, so it really isn[t a huge deal. just trying to get a balance here.

thanks and my sincere apologies to anyone who felt offended by the double digit remark. .

[Dollar Bill]

To get back on topic, I just finished the cleaning process on a 1903 stock. 6 good, sunny days total in a plastic bag on the dashboard of my Jeep, wiping it with mineral spirits at the end of each day. Saturday, I steamed the entire stock, avoiding markings, using a wet rag and the wifes iron. It came out beautiful. Similar, I suspect, to Chucks method of hot tanking. Minor dings disappeared, but still has some gouges that just show it's a 80 year old stock. Now, to start on applying a finish....

[Rick the Librarian]

In the end (notice I'm trying to bring this discussion to a close!), there are numerous ways of removing oil from a stock. They all work to one extent or another and you can see that folks on this forum have had varying amounts of luck with them. Those who try them out who don't have experience, shold be aware of the advantages and disadvantages of each one. You can PM/email those wo have had success an I'm sure they can give you additional hep.

As one of our members says, "YMMV".

[nashorn]

I have always used regular paint stripper and a plastic scraper or card for the big stuff then washed it off. After drying for a day or two I then use an old wet towel or washcloth and steam it good with an old steam iron I have. Draws all the left over grease and scrunge out of the pores and removes any small dents. Hopes this helps.

[mold maker]

Some kitty litter in a black garbage bag with the stock, on a closed vehicle dash for a couple days in the Summer, has always leached out the crud for me. A paint brush, cut off short, used with mineral spirits, will finish the job. It doesn't raise the grain or swell and destroy any of the markings.