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    Ross Rifle use 1946 and onwards

    Was the ross used in military service by any countries post 1945? I have read they were used by the dutch in the east indies as well as by The Haganah in the 1947–1949 Palestine war but I have no references for either to substantiate.
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    Have never seen any such reference myself. By that time China had plenty of small arms, the Balts were "back in the USSR", and India? They went to a lot of trouble to DP a lot of Rosses, but did they ever use them?

    As long as the WWI generation or their children lived the Ross name was mostly mud. Even people who hardly knew a rifle from an umbrella had opinions about it as I recall. The facts were less available and no one much wanted to hear them anyway.

    There were apparently quite a few men who had actually fought with them in Franceicon and had very different opinions, but societies were not much more fond of "dissenting opinions" then than they are now.

    Information that is apparently contradictory merely irritates most people as it obstructs their forming an opinion in the customary matter of seconds!
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    Saw a reference that the Ross was still on issue to the Canadianicon Parks service as late as 1970.

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    Yes it was. This was provincial and not federal.
    I bought several from the Alberta Government Surplus Division on 104 ave and and around 118 street .
    They had been shortened, sporterized and were being sold off as they finally got 94 Winchesters
    I still have one around here...someplace
    Does that bring back memories !!!!

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    Can you recall where you saw the info on the Haganah and Dutch East Indies? With a No.1 Mk.V turning up with the Viet Cong surely almost anything is possible!

    Cut down Ross Mk.IIIs were used by the Veteran Guards at important facilities and PoW camps here in Canadaicon IIRC. There is a photo of a vet on the gate at REL with a cut down Mk.III.
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    The references I saw were on Wikipedia of all places (without a citation) hence my apprehension regarding its accuracy.

    Do you have any of the photos with the Ross post WW2 in the scenarios you mentioned?

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    There were a few articles some years ago concerning the Ross rifles modified by the Russians and used in the 1956 Olympics. Some question as
    to the caliber, either 6,3x54r or standard 7,62x54r. Main use in the Olympics was the running deer event

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    I have a photo of my Great Uncle Kingsley at Chatham Basic Training Camp during WW2 in uniform with a Ross Mk.II. He was an NCO and taught vehicle mechanics there during the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    The references I saw were on Wikipedia of all places (without a citation) hence my apprehension regarding its accuracy.

    Do you have any of the photos with the Ross post WW2 in the scenarios you mentioned?
    I have not seen any post-WWII. I have heard from what I consider a reliable sources that a great number of older small arms were smelted after WWII. There are reports of rifles being stacked and burned before the metal parts were sent for scrap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surpmil View Post
    I have not seen any post-WWII. I have heard from what I consider a reliable sources that a great number of older small arms were smelted after WWII. There are reports of rifles being stacked and burned before the metal parts were sent for scrap.
    Or just simply dumped in the ocean, this was done for milsurps and ammo of all sorts because it was cheaper to do that in some cases than to surplus it even.

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