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    I had about 50 No.8 receivers at one time and none had the holes...Pity

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    DPL,
    Finally had a chance to check back through my firearms register this evening, in the hope of finding one of the serials you mention in the batch of T's NoBS Dave & I bought back in the 90's. Alas, no cigar here either, although one or two were pretty close:

    (P) 33074 - two out!
    (G) 33027 - last two digits transposed!
    & a few others not so close but in the same ball park.

    I'll dream on......

    ATB

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    Thanks for all of that info Forumers. The trouble (if that's the right word to use.....) with unearthing this stuff after so long is that there are hundreds or even thiousands out there in other forum-lands who have been brain washed by years of nonsense and horse manure that they might become unbelievers and won't accept some documented facts or are more likely to take in and absorb the urban myths that surround some of this stuff.

    I say this because I feared (and took advice....., thanks DRP) that I'd upset some regarding the ART and supressor fitted Envoy, especially after the pictures of it (?) had been doing the rounds for so long. Someone even told me that his friend's friend who knew someone (you know the sort of stuff....) had borrowed it to go freelance, deep under cover in 'bandit country'. Nobody has come up trumps with the rifle numbers yet buit SOMEONE out there must have one of the No8's fitted with brackets.......... If you've acquired yours since 1977, go snd see if it's got the holes filled in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    There was also a report on the feasibility on using telescoped No8 rifles to be used for indoor sniper training. I'll see if I can't find that too
    Peter, if you could find that I would be delighted. I have shown somewhere else on these forums what a No. 8 can do at 100 meters, and the 50 meter one-hole test pattern from the RWS test facility in Fürth. With the right ammo a No. 8 beats just about all full-bore service rifles up to 100 meters, so I reckon it certainly could have been used the purpose you mentioned.

    Good luck with your search!

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    It's already up Pat..................... Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Laidlericon View Post
    There was also a report on the feasibility on using telescoped No8 rifles to be used for indoor sniper training. I'll see if I can't find that too

    That's very interesting as I have a bracket for my No8 that’s NZicon marked.

    I spoke to one of the NZRAF armours who said he had never seen anything like it but suggested that it could have been set up by the army for sniper training?

    The bracket simply bolts to the two standard threaded holes in the side of the receiver and has a clamp at the front, on the top of the mount there are threaded & doweled holes that I guess the scope attached to (don’t have a scope or the other parts).

    At one point I fitted a weaver to it and it work very well, but I would like to know what scope was used with it originally maybe a ZF69 as I have an ex-NZ army one of those.





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    Sniper rifle "33072" that Peter Laidler asked about in 2011 has surfaced.

    In 2011 Peter Laidlericon asked if either 33072 or 35389, sniper rifles, had surfaced as he had documentation on their use in some trials in 1969. G33072 turned up. No. 4 Mk. I (T) "7.62.CONV.D.68" (the "D" presumably being the Enfield monogram). This message is just a follow-up for those with interest in experimental No. 4 rifles.

    G33072 BONHAMS AUCTION The Charnwood Ordnance Collection of Lee-Enfield Rifles and Accessories 23 Oct 1997, London, Englandicon Lot 141 "A Rare BSA Enfield Converted No. 4 Mk. 1 (T) / 7.62 Trials Rifle, serial no. G33072, converted at Enfield in 1968, pre-L42 hammered barrel, smaller diameter than the norm, standard sights and mounts and Mk. III scope fitted, (scope covers.) Skennertonicon page 217. Sold for GBP 700 in 1997. (Catalogue in Colin M. Stevens' Collection).

    G33072 POULIN'S AUCTION Extract from catalogue - LOT 2010 - "CONVERSION BOLT ACTION SNIPER RIFLE. Cal. 7.62mm NATO. S# G33072. Bbl. 27.5". Marked on left side of receiver, "RIFLE No.4Mk.I.(T)/7.62.CONV.D 68." Heavy bbl. Half stock w/ fitted cheek pc. & scope marked, "TEL.STG.No32 Mk3/OS 2039A. ™ [Griffin&Howe] {Poulin's error in listing } No18681". Matching S# w/ exception of scope bracket & mag. Scope bracket S# C37821. Bolt has crossed flag proof, not 19T as used later. "BNP" export proof mark on left side of receiver. U.S. Leather sling. Truly a stellar specimen of an almost impossible to find British sniper rifle before the XL42E1. UNATTACHED ACCESSORIES: brown leather scope cover. CONDITION: arsenal refinished at time of conversion. Very good to near excellent overall appearance. Appears mechanically functional. Near excellent bright rifled bore. Scope optics are clear. Scope has mottling at rear top of scope. Stock has several bruises, dings & handling marks. Clear plastic protective cover glued to brass buttplate. PROVENANCE: The Estate of Bob Faris. (16-3934/JWK). CURIO. $3,500-6,500. Price realized was USD $5,522.50 The listing is still visible at the time of this posting. Hibid
    Colin MacGregor Stevens https://www.captainstevens.com [B]Model 1918 scope ideally w P14 rings; LB Scout Sniper Rifle windmill sight & furniture; No. 4 Mk. I* 28L0844; any rifle with S/N ASE-xxxx ; No.32 Mk. I SN 1042.

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