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Originally Posted by
rice 123
it takes a lot more time to put 5 shells in a pump shotgun
Agreed but the doctrine is to load as you consume so you don't run out like that, use a couple and top up. That's if possible. If you go through them, you do learn how to thumb them in quickly, trust me. Not like changing a mag but I've seen mag change fumbles too.
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07-12-2020 09:06 PM
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Canfields book had a lot of interesting information on the substitution of shotguns for MP and guard purposes in early WWII, as the supply of rifles was quite short.
The US government had open purchase orders for used shotguns. 12 Gauges went to State Guard units and 16 gauges went to the Coast Guard shore patrols, which I gather patrolled the shore in the 42 time frame when the U-boats were sinking a lot of vessels off the cost of the US.
In any case my copy of the book helped a fired of mine, he bought very cheaply a Remington model 11, to cut down and make into a sort of gangster period piece. It was kind or rough and seemingly had no value. checked the barrel date and it had two marks, one from 1928 when made and it was factory redone in March of 1942 (or sometime close, working from recollections). Yup, it was likely a state guard gun, as the factory overhauls were mentioned in his book. Gun was saved because of that book.
Well worth the price, I found the book to be very interesting.
One added tidbit. A few surplus lots of state owned National Guard marked shotguns sold here in the last decade (Arizona, Ohio, Kansas) . Seems all were purchased in the 1968 time frame. While it is not in his book, it seems from folks back then that the federal regulations concerning the storage and issue for Federal full auto rifles (such as M16 rifles just making their way to the National Guard in 1970) meant is was easier for the states to buy and issue shotguns for Gate Guards/ internal security duties. I gather that was fixed by 1970/71 so they did not see a lot of use.
In any case that one area not covered in his book.
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