NRA RE-Issues Enfield 7.62 Warning (Jan 2010)

[arado]

Does this mean that I can no longer shoot my 1941 ROF No4 7.62 conversion regulated by Fulton? What to do with a PH-50.This rifle is accurate. Gary

[Beerhunter]

Has anyone considered asking the NRA where they got this ethereal evidence from?

Certainly did - last time they published this. Result - silence.

As my Uni Lecturer partner keeps telling her students - references!

[spinecracker]

Could we clarify that it was the NRA UK that put out this warning, if that is the case?

[Alan de Enfield]

Could we clarify that it was the NRA UK that put out this warning, if that is the case?

Click on the link :

National Rifle Association of the UK | NRA | Home Page

You will find NRA Journals on the right hand side.
Download the Winter 2009 Journal (a Pdf) Its the first one you come to.
The 'warning' is on Page 6

If its in the NRA Journal there is no doubt its a NRA warning.

Warning this warning could be coming to an NRA near YOU !!!

[Surpmil]

"Discussions are ongoing with the UK Proof Authorities over a joint statement which will be published as soon as it is available on the NRA website and in the Journal."

Translation: how can we cook something up to pretend these rifles aren't safe when they've all been proof tested to much higher pressures than 7.62mm generates...

Sounds like fear of litigation may be part of it. If they're so concerned about wartime quality they could just ban all No4s except Mk2s or rifles made after 1948, or thereabouts.

Perhaps they're not so confident of the quality of their ammo and are afraid a few 'firecrackers' might get through that will do some damage?

Still, if they invest the profits of their ammo sales well, they should have enough to pay for liability insurance.

[RJW NZ]

'Additionally the history of the usage of most
of these actions is not traceable.' ....

Is the shooting history of ANY fire arm truly traceable?

'There is some evidence of failures of these converted actions
after prolonged use which is exacerbated by the
use of cartridges contaminated by wet weather
or oil.'...

And this one...don't most/all fire arms come under the category of being potentially unsafe after a/ prolonged use and b/ using contaminated cartridges?

It reads like a letter a lawyer would love, as you pay his salary to spend hours and hours bickering and arguing the real meaning of sloppily written statements.

[Thunderbox]

I think this is dead news now. The UK NRA journal is always about six months out of date at the time of publication, and the Winter 09 issue covered events in the first half of 2009. As far as I know, the NRA have withdrawn/gone silent on this issue after they were challenged during the summer, and they have taken down the notice that was on the noticeboard at Bisley.

[villiers]

The NRA have again shown a great sense of responsibility with their sage advice. Of course there have been serious sccidents. Only recently I poked myself in the eye with a loaded .308 cartridge that jumped out of its charger. It hurt!

[jmoore]

I'm sure they'll post a notice shortly concerning the dangers of 7.62x51 chargers and their lack of positive retention vis a vis .303"SAA chargers!

[Alan de Enfield]

Update.
I have today spoken to the NRA (shooting division) and the warning is still in force.
The notice is (or should be) still on the notice boards.

Summary is : The warning came about as a result of 'grave concerns' by both the Police and the Military after both had 'problems' and a number of incidents. (I wasn't aware that the Police were still using 7.62 No4s - Enforcers etc. I thought they'd all be sold off or scrapped)

There is a management meeting this week and this subject is on the agenda.
The results will be published in the Spring edition of the Journal, and, posted on the notice board.

The person I spoke to had no knowledge of any specific incidents, or what specific ammunition the warning referred to.