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    Google-fu fails me and believe me I've huffed and I've puffed. I'm a defeated man......

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    Well I am going to take my guess at it, based on my google-fu.

    It appears to be a Germanicon Jaeger rifle, I am not sure of the model, which was originally a flintlock and later converted to a percussion rifle.

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    Warpig: You were so close with your first estimate, don't give up now!

    Eaglelord: Yes, it is a Germanicon "Jaeger" rifle, as Warpig had already correctly surmised, but not Prussian. And yes, it was originally a flintlock, professionally converted to percussion.

    But from which state?

    Two massive clues have been presented:

    1) "70 cm, or as the makers would have said "28 Zoll" - not inch!
    PLEASE NOTE: I made a big mistake in the previous post.
    Barrel length is 70, not 75 cm!

    2) The trigger guard is very distinctive. Google around a bit.

    These two clues will enable you to pin it down to the state and approximate time-frame.

    You have one day left. Get searching!
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    Ok my final guess.

    Is it a Hessian Jaeger rifle, that was converted from a flintlock to a percussion rifle?

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    So after a hard day our Jaegering and it has been a hot evening and they are settling for some schnapps a bloke pulls out one of these and well guess what it is just a bit of fun here
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    Austrian, pre 1820's flintlock later converted to percussion by herr Bubba in a small stadt South of Berlin?

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    one of these
    Without a clue I'll guess, an antenna for......?

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    After a hard day of jägering he hangs his coat up.....

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    gsimmons got the ice cream from what I gather it is a WWI or post WWI hanger for ones coat quite the nifty thing as it folds down to nothing another piece of my eclectic collecting?

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    Now It Can Be Revealed...

    ... it is indeed a Hessian Jaeger Rifle, built as a flintlock sometime between approx. 1770 and 1820, and later converted to percussion.

    So Eaglelord gets the virtual cigar, but in all fairness ought to let Warpig have a few puffs, as he came very close on the basis of just one photo of the muzzle and bore.

    Here it is in all its tatty glory:
    (Why does "Insert Inline" no longer function? Is it Windows 8.1?)

    But what can you expect for a 2-figure price? In the original flintlock configuration I could never have afforded it!

    A prime example from the Troiani collection may be seen here:
    https://books.google.de/books?id=ftm...museum&f=false


    - You will have to scroll up the page a bit to see the entire rifle.

    Swamped barrel, probably Damascus steel (of which more later), old-style Germanicon "hair trigger". Lock mechanism with fly. The wood is in a poor condition, but the bore is SUPER. More on that later as well.

    The museum in Schmalkalden (home-town of the one-time gunmaker Pistor) is supposed to have a converted Jaeger, so I am going to see if I can arrange a meeting with the curator for a hands-on inspection. Any makers marks on my example were removed at the time of conversion or later - there is something underneath the barrel that could have been a deep stamp, but it has been filled up with what looks like the brass spelter used for 19th. C. brazing.
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    Good job!! but don't be a bogart Eaglelord, pass that puppy...

    I have to tell you, pinning down one of these old rifles/muskets isn't easy but it was a fun few days....

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