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    Enforcers tips please

    Just had a visit from the firearms officer and looks like my FAC variation is going to go through - which means I'm going to be looking for an enforcer! Now, the markings on Number 4(t)s have been discussed in minute detail - but I've never seen much said on what we should look for on an Enforcer. Pls tell what should be numbered (mag, scope????) where I should look and even if different scopes were fitted. I'd appreciate all contributions. Thanks
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    I strongly advise you to go and have a look at few Enforcers before you attempt to buy one. As with 4(T)s, there is quite a bit of fakery going on, plus all sorts of cobbled-together rifles with non-standard parts bearing cow-poo stories about how they are "special models"....

    There are two types of receiver markings. Earlier rifles (up to number 2xx somewhere) have the engraving within a milled ovoid:



    Late rifles have the same format as L39/L42/Envoy:



    The rifle number appears on the receiver wall, forend underside, bolt handle and magazine. The number on the magazine and bolt should be in the same font and also have a small fullstop mark at the end - eg: "332."

    The rifle number is also usually written in pencil on the inside of the forend and handguard, and should be stamped into the socket end face of the butt (ie you can't see this without removing the butt).

    Some Enforcers have the rifle number engraved just under the serial number of the Pecar scope, however, it is not at all certain that ALL pecars were numbered to the rifle - many appear to have been un-numbered.

    Some Enforcers have a stud inserted for a Harris bipod - the stud is sunk into a very rough milled area to get it deep enough to bed the bipod. Neat surface-mounted studs seem to be later additions by civilian owners.


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    Thanks very much for that fulsome answer! The trouble with looking at a few is that they tend to be at opposite ends of the country.
    So the bipod was by no means standard fitting then - I kind of assumed it was? What range of scopes are known to have been fitted and does whether they are numbered depend on the date of manufacture (eg early ones) or is it entirely random?
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    Untitled Document

    Click on the link above & scroll down to the bottom of the page.

    Just to wet your appetite - its all complete and correct except the "wrong" scope. (But whose to say its wrong - Police forces apparently bought scopes locally when budgets allowed)

    But - its gone (surprise surprise)

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    Stensby's website hasn't been updated in about ten years....

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    Like the link Alan - it's amazing how many gunshops went 'online' in a burst of enthusiasm years ago and never turned on their computer ever again! If I pick up a genuine one for that price I will be reasonably happy

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    I have a file of responses from the old Joustericon forum - this should give you some of the info you are seeking - but it is 202kb(too large to attach) - send me an e-mail if you want it, or know how to post it.
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    Ok - I'm probably going to look at one soon - any last tips?
    One thing someone suggested to me was that the bore might not look as crisp as on other guns for some great technical reason I can't recall (something to do with the type of rifling perhaps?) - is that true?

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    Had a visit today from Plod as my FAC is due for renewal - he's recommending to give me an 'open' FAC.

    Dead chuffed !!!

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    How'd you swing that Alan? You must have a cavernous gun chest!

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