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    Un-serialed LB Mk I

    I found the other post about the un-serialed LB Mk I* interesting, so will post photos of this un-serialed early Long Branch Mk I I have just picked up. It is complete, original, fully inspected with all cartouches, has all early Mk I parts (waisted ft sight protector, button cocking piece, early Singer type sight, low wood for cutoff, hinged front swivel), but interestingly has no date stamp on the barrel, although it has the same inspection mark seen on the barrel on Doug's Mk in the MKLicon. The story on this rifle is that it was in a display case at Long Branch, and was taken down from there by the Managing Director, an Al Sweeting, when the factory closed. There is no documentation of that of course. As they say, buy the rifle, not the story--I find the story interesting, and while I am sure many would say this is a "lunchbox special" I do find the story plausible. Having seen the photos posted online of Long Branch factory during the war, I know that these were assembled, and then serialed at the end of the line in batches. It is possible I suppose that someone managed to lift a complete early Mk I, or maybe it was indeed put in a display case as one of the first ones. Who knows, and at this late date, who would ever know? Story or no, display case rifle or lunchbox special, I bought the rifle because aside from having no serial number, it is flat out the nicest Mk I LB I've ever seen. Not that I've seen many, but this one is a beauty.

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    OMG your rifle looks magnificent.

    Great photos.

    Regardless of the origin....wow.

    Very jealous.

    Have fun at the range.

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    Now the strangest thing, on another forum is a 1943 Long Branch that doesn't have a serial number (unless I am really blind). It is a 1* but the odds of another no serial number gun must be pretty big.
    Why use a 50 pound bomb when a 500 pound bomb will do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
    Now the strangest thing, on another forum is a 1943 Long Branch that doesn't have a serial number (unless I am really blind). It is a 1* but the odds of another no serial number gun must be pretty big.
    Yes, it is odd. That one is on Gunnutz. Asking 950, which seems high for a rifle which is pictured without the front topwood and front sight "ears".

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    Quote Originally Posted by boltaction View Post
    Yes, it is odd. That one is on Gunnutz. Asking 950, which seems high for a rifle which is pictured without the front topwood and front sight "ears".

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    Yes, it is odd it is missing the front topwood and ears. The price is high but no serial number makes a person wonder how many are out there? Two show up in a couple of days and yet have never seen one before? Do you think they left via the backdoor of the plant?
    Why use a 50 pound bomb when a 500 pound bomb will do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boltaction View Post
    Yes, it is odd. That one is on Gunnutz. Asking 950, which seems high for a rifle which is pictured without the front topwood and front sight "ears".

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    Actually, looking at the rifle again, it is also missing the end of the barrel and bayonet lugs. Most bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield303t View Post
    It will be interesting to see if more LB's like this surface after the Long Gun Registry ends in Canadaicon. I believe there are tens of thousands of unregistered guns "hiding" all over the country. We can always hope as they make a great conversation piece.

    Generally a firearm like probably was liberated out the back door just like grey market products are today.

    Registering this gun could prove to be very interesting. I think of the "discussions" I had with someone trying to tell me my Lee Enfield "must have a letter prefix" before the serial number...well it didn't and it went downhill from there. With the LG Registry about to take its last breath why bother trying to register it.
    It's already registered--just uses a FIN sticker. No different than a Ross. It certainly is possible it was a back door liberated piece--it would seem that if that was the case, the security at Long Branch must have been lax. I can see pistols and pistol parts leaving the Inglis factory, because the parts are small and easily concealed. However, a fully assembled rifle is a tougher proposition I would think. This rifle certianly didn't leave the factory as "parts"..............

    I see you're in the Okanagan--so am I. Whereabouts?

    Ed

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    OP, if you know where the rifle's owners are, you might ask them for a letter which discribes the circumstance of that rifle. Very nice piece. Plausable story, but buy the rifle.

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    I thought I recognised it. I chatted with the prior owner a while ago and tried to explain the importance of provenance, but I am not sure he got the idea. I know he was expecting to sell the rifle for a pretty penny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinecracker View Post
    I thought I recognised it. I chatted with the prior owner a while ago and tried to explain the importance of provenance, but I am not sure he got the idea. I know he was expecting to sell the rifle for a pretty penny.
    It's possible. It wasn't cheap, but then, no nice LB Mk I is. However, it was part of a package deal with a couple of sniper rifles and an REL observers scope with accessories, so it will come out in the wash. In any case, it is a rifle I'm planning on being buried with (so to speak) so the resale value is not of great relevance.

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