• 1944 No.1 Intermediate Shortened & Lightened Rifle (Mfg by SAF Lithgow)

    1944 No.1 Intermediate Shortened & Lightened Rifle
    (Mfg by SAF Lithgow) - Serial #XP53 "Experimental"

    c/w 1937 Web Pattern sling
    (Mfg in 1941 by M.E. Co. - Mills Equipment Co., London)




    1944 No.1 Intermediate Shortened & Lightened Rifle (Mfg by SAF Lithgow) - Serial #XP53
    1944 No.1 Intermediate Shortened & Lightened Rifle (Mfg by SAF Lithgow) - Serial #XP53 "Experimental"

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    Caliber: ............................ .303 in., Mk VII Ammo
    Rifling & Twist: .................. 5 Groove, Enfield, Left Hand Twist
    Barrel Length: .................. 20.2 in (513 mm)
    Overall Length: ................. 39.3 in (998 mm)
    Weight: ............................ 8 lb 11 oz. (3.9 kg) (unloaded)
    Magazine Capacity: ........... 10 rounds (magazine loaded)
    Qty Mfg: ........................... 100 (Serial Number Range XP1 to XP100)

    Source: .... The Lee Enfield by Ian Skennerton (2007) - ISBN: 9780949749826
    Source: .... Small Arms Identification Series #19 by Ian Skennerton (2004) - ISBN: 0949749494


    1944 No.1 Intermediate Shortened & Lightened Rifle
    This item has been reviewed by members of the Milsurps Advisory Panel.This item has been judged by members of the Milsurps Advisory Panel, to be authentic by original manufacturer, with all correct markings and components.
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    Observations: .... extracts from "The Lee Enfield" (Pages 347-348, 500) by Ian Skennerton
    With thanks to Advisory Panel members Lance and Wheaty for their assistance.
    Note: Pics of rifle provided courtesy of MILSURPS.COM member ~Angel~.

    While a few sample rifles of this basic configuration were fabricated in England, a batch of about 100 was produced in Australia in 1944 for Army trials. The serial numbers are preceded by XP and range between 1 and about 100.

    The barrel and fore-end were shortened by 5 inches and the nosecap re-fitted. Except for the one-piece top handgrip with springs in the usual read handguard position and two longitudinal grooves on each side of the shortened fore-end, the furniture and fittings are generally similar to the service No.1 MKIII* Lithgow production model, but for the backsight. The aperture sight is mounted onto the charger bridge and has only two push-pull range settings, for 200 and 500 yards; a screw on the left side of the charger bridge regulates the tension on this sight.

    The first 18 rifles were completed by March 6th, 1944 and the remaining 82 by the end of the month. Complete army trials did eventuate and most of the rifles were left in stores at SAF Lithgow. A similar model, two inches shorter, was also initially considered with different styles of backsight. Thus the sample shown here in this Knowledge Library entry was referred to as the "Intermediate" length. Sling swivels are of the standard type and placement, mounted on the butt and outer band.

    A different bayonet was proposed for this shortened rifle, with a 10 inch blade. This particular design was later introduced for the Owen Machine Carbine, although the markings are a little different because the trials bayonets had no service acceptance, date or pattern marking; only the "X" bending mark and "OA" factory code.




    Collector's Comments and Feedback:

    1. To give members some idea as to the rarity and market value of this collector's piece, read the thread in our Commercial Auction and Sale "Gossip" (click here) forum titled Reference Thread - Australian Arms Auctions - May 4th, 2008 (click here) .

    This thread contains a post regarding one of these rifles (Serial XP45) that just sold at the Australian Arms Auctions on May 4th, 2008 for $7,000 AUSD


    Lot 321 SCARCE LITHGOW EXPERIMENTAL NO.I B/A SHORTENED & LIGHTENED RIFLE: .303 Cal; 20.2" barrel; bore packed in grease; receiver ring marked m.a.lithgow smle iii* 1944; this rifle is new, unissued; all complete & orig with correct bayonet & scabbard. Only 100 of these rifles were made at Lithgow Small Arms Factory. Serial #XP45 L/R $3000 -4000
    ....... (Feedback by "Badger")


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    1. Geoalex's Avatar
      I HAVE MA SMLE 1942 No4 MK1 SER No 60234 AND ON BOLT WITH AN ADDITIONAL No UNDER BOLT
      H4446 AND ON ACTION. STOCK MARKED HV D o you know the meaning of the other markings ?
      Sorry unable to copy and post pictures Geoalex.
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    1. Badger's Avatar
      These comments sections are not designed for interactive feedback, only comments about the articles. Try posting your question in the The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum (click here).

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      Doug
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