Inland M1 Carbine Help

Hello all, I inherited a Inland carbine when my dad passed away while I was in Iraq last year. I just finally got to take a closer look at it and I'm wondering what its value is. The receiver is inland ser. number 724xxx and the front left has SG on it, The barrel is marked inland with a date of 4-43. The bolt is flat on one side with AI on the lug. The slide is marked PI, The extractor, firing pin, and mag release are marked W-I or I-M depending which side you read them from. The trigger is marked UI. The hammer is a dog leg type marked GI. The trigger housing has inland stamped on it. The stock has the inland cartouche and OI marked in the sling well. It has the flip rear sight and no bayonet lug. Tried to add some pictures but couldn't get them to load. The gun is excellent shape, It was still covered in cosmoline. . Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

11Bravo, welcome and thank you for your service. So sorry to here about your father. The carbine sounds like a desirable one. Pictures will help determine value. What you describe sounds like a correct, not messed with 6 digit Inland. Does the stock have the I cut on the right? Is it a high wood or low wood? What are the stamps on the rear sight and barrel band? Someone will give you advise on loading pics. I still have trouble doing it. Your going to get alot of help with this, I'm sure.....Frank

P.S. I have a soft spot for the Infantry

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frankderrico, I don't know what you mean by the stock having a I cut into it, but in the sling well there is a OI marking and also a P on the bottom of the grip. What is the difference between the high and low wood? The front sight has a N marked on it, and the rear sight has a S, but I cant find a mark on the barrel band itself but the sling swivel has a UI on it. You have to excuse me I'm a newbie to this gun and I have no idea what I'm doing. Here is a link to the photos of my carbine. Inland M1 Carbine pictures by 11Bravo30 - Photobucket Thanks very much Gary

Bravo, here's a thread with a good explanation of the differences. High/wood low wood refers to the amount of wood covering the operating slide on the right side of the stock I-Cut refers to the slot for the oiler in the buttstock. Early carbines had a "I: cut, i.e the cutout resembles a capital "I" with flared out ends. Later oiler cuts were oval at the ends.
https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=21200

LeagleEagle, Thanks much for the info, mine is a highwood and the oiler slot is oval on the ends. Thanks again

Gary, your going to become good at these weapons from an earlier war. I think your going to like walnut vs. plastic, from a collectors point of view. Your father left you a gem for your first carbine. Don't change a thing on it. Very nice early Inland. Value? My thought $1,000.00 or more. Lets see what others on the forum say, but that gets you in the ballpark.....Frank

Very Nice, maybe a little more.

Thanks all for the info, I appreciate it very much

Its in the same grouping of SN as mine, 4-43 barrel too, and type 2 stock. Its worth over $1500.00 if 100% original, I think the original finish was dulite black oxide.
Andy

Wow 11Bravo! Very nice. It looks like an unmolested early Inland with all the right finishes to me. Cool!!!

Wecome aboard!

Bravo,

First, welcome and thanks for taking your all-expenses-paid-vacation last year. Those "walking" tours are a b*t*h, but you do get to meet so many friendly locals ! ( that was a sarcastic pun since you don't know me yet)

It is probably going to take several opinions of some of the real collectors here to give you an idea what someone else will pay for it... you are already getting a good input from a couple of them and more will weight in over the next few days.... BUT...

In my humble opinion, the REAL value to can be summed up like this... Your father left you the carbine. So for you (and your kids) the value is PRICELESS... It looks to be in great condition with some highly desirable parts. That dogleg and the hammer spring seem to be difficult parts to find now adays. Now I warn you right up front, carbine collecting is a very addicting habit - we think it may be something in the cosmoline. But the more you learn about your father's carbine, the more you are going to want to get another one. And it may not stop there... Don't say that you were not warned...

But all joking aside..... With deep sincerity, I am sorry for your loss especially during such at such a difficult and dangerous time.

Priceless, absolutely priceless. The family heirloom we all dream about!

It very well could be a duplicate of mine, however my recoil plate is an earlier dulite finish.Bravo says his is phosphate

Thanks very much everybody, I really appreciate all the help. I am going to get another carbine to shoot, as I don't think this one has been shot. The gun including the inside of the barrel was still in cosmoline when I got it. When I came home on emergency leave I didn't have time to even look at it, I figured as soon as I got home I would check it out, but I ended up volunteering for another tour, and then I volunteered to teach national guard units that are deploying for another year. So it has been sitting in my safe for over three years. It really is enjoyable learning about these guns. Again thanks everyone for the help!

Good luck Bravo...this is a dangerous hobby.
Ive whittled myself down to 5 "original" carbines, and with so many mixmasters, and FAT rebuilds from the CMP out there to shoot, its best to keep a super collectable as is, no more post war wear..In my opinion, only..My son is out there too USMC..Andy

11Bravo,
I copied and pasted the IMG CODE from your Photo bucket File to show your picture within this thread.
When doing so, always try the " PREVIEW POST " button before posting the Reply. Just so you know your pictures are in with your text.

Very nice carbine. Like some........ you can't put a value on something like this, passed on from your Father.
I was given my Fathers carbine from his time spent in the PTO during WWII. It sat in a safe for years. After finding out he was in the early stages of Alzheimers, while thinking about him I pulled it from the safe, started researching and asking questions about it. Before that I hadn't really handled a M1 carbine. That was 21 or 22 carbines ago over roughly 7 years. 16 of which I still have. But then come the 1911/A1's and .38's......... etc...etc...
So you've been warned ;-)

Questions for you.......
Can you see any signs of green number stamps inside the stock? Where the Op slide would cycle?

Welcome and Thanks for sharing the history !

Charlie-painter777

P.S. Almost forgot the most important part.......... Thank You for Your Service !!

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My Fathers WRA 5,573,898
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Painter, Thanks, Wow thats alot of carbines, I can see my wife is not going to be happy about this! I have 27 various rifles and shotguns and 16 pistols already and she thinks thats way to many. In answer to your question there are some numbers stamped in there but they are hard to read. It looks like 104 3 possibly. They are located on the bottom of the inside of the stock directly below where the slide is. Do they mean anything?
Thanks again Gary

11Bravo, that 104 3 is the winning numbers to the lottery - you just don't know it yet!

As far as numbers, Charlie is just an "average" collector. I am still trying to play catch up (divorce is a killer on hobbies). There are some guys around this forum that have 20 or MORE carbines, but I won't rat them out - yet. Don't worry about numbers, just quality. Don't settle for the rebuilds and fakes, these guys here will help you find the really good ones which will grow in value over time. Your bank account will see it as an investment, but unfortunately, your wife will see it as an addiction. And those other firearms in the safe???? most will just be a fading memory pretty soon!

Oh, just to try yourself on luck of the drawn, you can always pop over to CMP and drop an order for a carbine straight from Govt release. Your military service more than qualifies you. They are not in the best of condition, but they are genuine, well priced and actually a very good way to learn about carbines. But you better hurry, they will be completely out within the next week to 10 days.

Ed

Welcome to the Club ! I Cut and Oval. I'll try and sort out a Hi/low wood pic for you. But it can get a little complicated from there on in. MikeAttachment 14801Attachment 14802

Any Idea what the green numbers in the stock mean?

Thanks

They are generally believed to be a sort of Julian dating system.
I am not exactly sure how they work on the carbines, but it may be the 104th day of 1943.
Someone else may jump in if I am wrong on the date. Very nice carbine and thanks for your service.
Dave

Thanks for the info Dave, that might be about right with the 4-43 marking on the barrel

Here is a better picture of my carbine all back together, except for the bolt as I am waiting for the bolt tool to reassemble it. https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC00959-1.jpg