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Attachment 24478Attachment 24477Attachment 24476Attachment 24479Attachment 24480Found some web gear that was all dated 1942
Looks to be a BAR Belt and a Thompson Drum Pouch. Nice pieces. In My area, they bring a bit O' cash...
Thanks, RCS! The 1942 dated gear is harder to find because most of it was issued and the dates were obliterated with use.
I'll look to see If I can find anything I have left with 41 or 42 dates. I had some gear with the earlier dates but I sold a bunch of my stuff when I went through a divorce a few years ago.
I hated selling it, but it was like having money in the bank in a pinch because it was so easy to sell and also get more cash back out of it than I paid for it.
Not just the dates were obliterated Harlan, most of the guys using the early gear were obliterated too. Operation torch, Guadalcanal...
Yup, sadly you're correct Jim.
I looked through everything I could find and this is all the 1942 marked gear I could find.
Two field packs, shovel cover, legging, carbine 'stock' pouch
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I found a 1942 dated 16" bayonet and a shovel that I have to use my imagination to make out a 2 at the end. (Could be anything)
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On the subject of the shovel - Does anyone have any hard facts about these? I researched and heard they were made for the USMC for lightness. All I've seen are made by the same company. They actually are a lot lighter than the folding shovel. They are aren't made from broken folding shovels because they have a special bracket. Just wondered if anyone knew for certain.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../7Medium-1.jpg
I don't recall seeing any shovel like that before. Most early ones had a "T" handle.
John
RCS nice stuff!
The shovel is a bit of a mystery, the exact origin of them is not clear but yours is probably dated 1944 or 1945. The two major issue shovels used by the US in WW2 were the old M1910 pattern (both left over from WW1 and some new WW2 production) also known as a "T" handel and the M1943 folding shovel, the blade was hinged and the dates range from 1943-1945.
Looks like a USMC canteen cover in the bottom (right) photo?
Attachment 24520Harlan, You have some really nice examples of 1942 dates. I remember something about the short shovel too - just can not recall. I found some more 1942 dated examples, Boyt 42 sling still with the brass hooks - did not last too much longer. Also my only SA 1942 M1 rifle from June 1942, with S-A 6-42 bbl and everything else including the 1942 first type 1 locking bar (its original)
Thanks, but you really DO have some nice stuff! I love your M1, and the sling is awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
I just put the three types side by side for the first time and noticed they're much different than I thought they were. The 1943 folding shovel has quite a bit longer handle and the blade is a bit different too. The oddball shovel's blade is a bit more rounded and it fits the M1910 carrier exactly like the M1910 shovel. I put the M1943 shovel in the M1910 carrier with the shovel extended and the blade is too long, and hinge too fat to fit very well. The odd shovel fits into the M1943 carrier, but with the squared side down it doesn't fit the taper of the carrier so the flap won't close.Quote:
Originally Posted by P-07ShortLee
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../Shovels-1.jpg
Yes, that's a USMC canteen carrier. I didn't realize it was the first pattern until Lloyd (LimeyCarbineLover) told me a few days ago. It doesn't show up very well in the photos, but the top portion material for the 'dog ears' is a shade darker than the lower fabric.
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Yum...nice looking gear guys.....i personally like the transistional web gear......RCS that 42 M1 Garand looks lovely....any more shots of it ?...there was a discussion about those fixed handle shovels wasnt there on the US Militaria Forum.....and no one could come up with a definitive answer...:-(
Regards
Lloyd
Attachment 24629Attachment 24631Attachment 24630Attachment 24632SA M1 Rifle s/n 613217, barrel is S-A 6-42 (no chrome) Bolt is rev 12SA heat lot RE5B with the hole in the right lug. Op rod rev 3. Everything else is correct, the stock is a short channel SA GHS with faint cartouche. Robert
Lovely looking M1 RCS......just a coupleof questions...the trigger guard is that WW2 correct or not..i was always told that the WW2 Garand will have a flat trigger guard not the one with the loop at the back.....?
and whats the screw ? in the front sight..........?
But a gorgeous piece of WW2 American weaponary anyhow.....thanks for the pictures
Regards
Lloyd
LLoyd, The milled trigger guards were used until mid-late 1944 when replaced by the stamped trigger guards. The milled trigger guards have the loop (except for the very early ones) and started out with just the drawing number than revision numbers (example June 1942, the trigger guard would be a revision 5. My April 1943 rifle has a revision 12 trigger guard.Attachment 24673 Another photo of my June '42 rifle. Robert
Thankyou for that RCS..i was only questioning as one of my 3 x M1 Garands...a 33316** (November 1944 ?) Garands has the later trigger guard on it.......so this late it would have had it as standard fitment ...right ?
And has an S M Co 1944 web sling on it..:-)
Regards
Lloyd
Lloyd, your 3.3 mil M1 rifle is correct with the late trigger guard. Robert