When are we going to discuss the 4500 pound elephant in the room ?
L42A1 Enfield British 308 Sniper NO32 Scope Mount Real RARE | eBay
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When are we going to discuss the 4500 pound elephant in the room ?
L42A1 Enfield British 308 Sniper NO32 Scope Mount Real RARE | eBay
4500 pound or 4500 dollar?
$4500 dollars. The elephant comment was a metaphor for the sticker shock of collecting snipers. Unless of course he plans to take an L42a1 elephant hunting. Then my money is on the elephant.
Hi,
Last month I saw a std no4 mk1* LB advertised here in online auction house in NZ for $2000NZ. Looking at it, a fair price would have been <$200 it was shagged. Didnt sell....
regards
Well before I get slammed with questions and friendly comments :bash:
I want to let it be known that I don't want to nor need to sell it at this time. If it sells, it sells, if not no biggy.
Honestly I put it up for sale to try and find the original rifle that it goes to or find a rifle that I can purchase. Hence the last little comment in the listing.
I bought the complete rig less a couple CES items a few months ago for only slightly more than that.
Snipershot, don't bet too much on the elephant. They've been killed by the hundreds in past years with lesser calibers.
Last October I paid $4500 for an L42a1 with chest, scope, mount, can, lens cover and carrier strap. All matching, from the Navy Arms load. All matching, for $4500.
If someone wants to sell me there L42a1 rifle and kit for what they bought it for or heck even little more than they paid. I'll happily bring down the price of the scope.
Again, I know that the price of the scope is BS. Like I said in my previous post (#5)
I want to let it be known that I don't want to nor need to sell it at this time. If it sells, it sells, if not no biggy.
Honestly I put it up for sale to try and find the original rifle that it goes to or find a rifle that I can purchase. Hence the last little comment in the listing.
It can't just be me that thinks that we are our own worst enemies, sites like this and others are great at passing information and for increasing personal knowledge. Pre internet we had our own shooting circles and friends that we learnt from and sold too but now the world is at our feet.
The hype that surrounds almost anything with the word "sniper" attached to it truly astounds me at times and the "feeding frenzy" that is sometimes generated really beggars belief.
Lots of people have done very well out of this hype, it has been said on many occasions an item will only sell for what someone is prepared to pay for it no matter what someone thinks it might be worth.
If someone had the rifle that matched this scope then it might be worth the money to them but who are we to judge, it was not that long ago that someone paid in the region of £1200 for the L42 lens cleaning brush bottle, an item that without its "sniper" connection would have at best been worth only a few pence and worst simply thrown in the bin.:madsmile:
Yes I agree with Buccaneer so there is a rifle without its matching scope for all we know it may have gone to the Rangers in Canada, the word "Sniper" immediately makes it most valuable.
If you sell it for 4.5 elephants good for you but then again at your price you may as well put it back in the safe for the next umm 40 years. I know here's the go there is a penthouse in Monaco coming up for sale next year at $400 million why don't you try to sell it there as of the 38,000 inhabitants in Monaco one in three is a millionare!!!!!
Karamojo Bell shot 0000's elephants with a 6.5mm and no hunter has ever been able to master his 1/4 ing away shot from behind with the same calibre weapon as think of it this way it requires precise placement and very intimate visualisation of where the brain is on a moving target.
Get it wrong and you will be well just pulped
I do not advocate the Great Hunts in Africa like they have today but if that's your thing then go ahead hope ya miss! thing is if you read Corbett, A.J Hunter, Capstick and Bell they whilst in the golden age of hunting took on stuff that would make a lesser bloke give up the ghost.
These shooters were in some cases culling dangerous rogues and man killers I think in one of my books a tiger had disposed of a few hundred people till Corbett shot her but she nearly had him a lesser hunter would have died in the attempt (2 year saga), also there was one leopard Corbett hunted had 300+ victims under its claws.
Corbett remarked that pound for pound a leopard was the most dangerous of all the cats and many a hunter had been dispatched rather savagely tracking a wounded one, ya go into the long grass chances are 99% in the leopards favour you will perish under its fangs and claws.
For one reason or another they become killers either through old age or injury and in the end kill but in some instances for the fun of it!
Here is one for the record books actually posted in a newspaper "Why don't all you hunters go to the supermarket to get your meat where animals are not hurt." and that really is a true tale :confused:
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Well... anyone can put it up for a buy it now price at whatever they want - I don't see that can be criticised. If it sells at that, then someone thinks it's worth it. I've seen an L1A1 scope on its own sell on ebay for more than 2k english elephants so...
I don't want to pee on anyones parade but I looked at that sight and it LOOKED to me that it might have been one of those rebuilt and put back in Ord as War Reserve Stocks - with one of the late supplied but approved aftermarket brackets. Anyone else look at this closely?
I could be wrong of course but when those 200(?) or so previously stripped rifles were rebuilt, they went straight back to Ord and were never used.
I sent a PM to DRP to see if it was one of his early brackets.....
In a reply back from the DRP, he said it is probably one of a small batch of brackets that he released direct to the trade straight from the forge, the problem here was he was assured that they would be dressed up and finished the same way he does.
You can imagine his dismay at the poor standard of preparation work (or near total lack of it) that has happened to some of them and would say its the case with the one mentioned, for anyone purchasing a bracket direct from Roger, please dont be confused with the one mentioned or seen along with the scope etc on TAS.
I can assure all whom are contemplating on a future purchase from Roger they come cleaned up, sand blasted, parkerized and suncorited and are a top quality product, the reason I know ?
I have two of them and have an order in for the third, so I do stress again dont look at the one mentioned as this is direct from the casting mold.
For an idea of what you get and what the finished article looks like I have put a few pics below, again its for comparrison and this was one straight from the forge which has had my finishing work to it, the paint is suncorite but was brushed on, simple reason for that was a problem with the compressor and wanted paint on it at the soonest as it was about to face the elements of the British weather ( lots of rain)... it has had the same process as Roger would apply and by the way the pic is for ilustration so if you buy a bracket from Roger don't expect the Mk2 scope thrown in on the deal, its worth a try but as much of a nice guy he is, I doubt very much he would include one :lol:
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To be honest, I've NEVER seen one that good Big Duke!!!!!!! But the auction one for zillions of £££££'s was from that stable. The Q now is this. Is it original - as they were fitted to the reserves stockpiles or not? Mmmmmmmm. I don't think anyone at workshops finished to any great extent the ones that were bought in except for scraping and fitting for collimation, numbering and painting.
Peter took the words from my mouth, (or is that fingers?). I've done several and mine aren't as pretty as yours Big Duke but are as nice as any original I've seen!
Well regardless, thanks for the kind words re the brackets chaps!
ATB.