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    Unit marked PATCHETT (Sterling) magazine 21ANC



    Does anyone know the nationality and/or unit that marked 21 ANC on this early Patchett (Sterling) magazine?

    This magazine was on Gunbroker a while back, I suspect it may be one of the Patchett marked magazines that Apex sold some years ago.

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    Looks like a basic standard commercial 2nd type Sterling magazine to me. The military issue versions of it were marked L1A1 and the RR etc etc mags were L1A2.

    As for those ANC markings, ain't got a clue! But weach gun was sold and issued with between 6 or 10 magazines, depending on the customer, all I can say is that the arms storeman would be spending a LOT of time stencilling them!

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    Peter, it is indeed the same as an L1A1 or a commercial Sterling magazine, except for the markings.
    There is no date, no Patent information, and it is not marked Sterling.
    The only marking in addition to MAGAZINE PATCHETT 9MM 34 RDS is a solitary letter M stamped on the front face of the magazine.
    I assume it is an early magazine from when the gun was still called a Patchett but after the helical spring was introduced, so maybe 1952-1953.


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    Quote Originally Posted by reccetrooper View Post
    There is no date, no Patent information, and it is not marked Sterling
    Is it possible that it's an off shore? Like when you have an HK MP5 not marked HK, they were usually Turkishicon. Is it possible some off shore made this mag? India maybe?
    Regards, Jim

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    Unlikely, I don’t see why would anyone mark the magazine Patchett if it wasn’t a Patchett magazine. The Indian made mags are clearly marked MAGAZINE 9MM 1A 34RDS for their 1A Sterling copies, and the Canadianicon mags for their C1 are different.

    The Sterling was still known as the Patchett Machine Carbine in 1952 when the helical spring magazine was patented.


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    Quote Originally Posted by reccetrooper View Post
    The Indian made mags are clearly marked MAGAZINE 9MM 1A 34RDS for their 1A Sterling copies, and the Canadianicon mags for their C1 are different.
    Agreed on that and yes our mags were completely different. Just wondering because the Turks also had some L2 SMGs and thought they may have...
    Regards, Jim

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