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corrosive?
thinking about buying some surplus 7.62x54R. what is the best solvent to use so i don't have to worry about pitting in the bore. thanks.
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08-30-2009 06:12 PM
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Hot water and lots of it.
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I use hot water and Tide.
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Originally Posted by
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Hot water and lots of it.
and a long necked funnel.
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Originally Posted by
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and a long necked funnel.
Nah, if it's hot enough it'll dry quick anyway.
Actually, the only rifle I don't bother with a funnel is my VZ58. No wood to worry about on it.
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wet/water patches at the range
while the bore is still hot hot, then some Sweets (mostly water), then some break free, but usually I DON'T SHOOT THE STUFF (in enfields anyway) because there isn't any real need to do so, plus much of the cordite is "click-bang-confeitti" and far from precision ammo! LOL
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Butch's Bore Shine: there's water in the mix for the corrosive priming and it does a great job of removing jacket fouling. Bores cleaned previously with Ed's Red still show a bunch of crud on patches soaked with Bore Shine. (Disclaimer: I do not own stock in the company, am not an employee and have received no compensation for this post.)
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Originally Posted by
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Butch's Bore Shine: there's water in the mix for the corrosive priming and it does a great job of removing jacket fouling. Bores cleaned previously with Ed's Red still show a bunch of crud on patches soaked with Bore Shine. (Disclaimer: I do not own stock in the company, am not an employee and have received no compensation for this post.)
Strange, I spoke with the original inventor owner ( Charles ) of Butch’s years ago, we talked about how it almost got named Bore Squeak. He disclosed no water in the formula to me. It would have been next to impossible for Butch’s to past the 3M Laboratories three month barrel soak test if it had water in it.
Edit: I stand corrected. BerdanIII you are correct. I am down to my last bottle of original Butch’s from BBS Billings Montana. Yesterday I purchased a new bottle now made by Lyman. Sure enough the new label list water (7732-18-5).
Last edited by JBS; 09-18-2009 at 08:55 AM.
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Butch's Bore Shine:

Originally Posted by
BerdanIII
Butch's Bore Shine: there's water in the mix for the corrosive priming and it does a great job of removing jacket fouling. Bores cleaned previously with Ed's Red still show a bunch of crud on patches soaked with Bore Shine. (Disclaimer: I do not own stock in the company, am not an employee and have received no compensation for this post.)
You ARE right. Butch's has a dash of ammonia for the copper that Ed's lacks.
One fellow has prepared Ed's Red with Strong Ammonia (from janitorial supply store) to Make Ed's PINK and it works well, but I prefer MilTec Pro or it's Hoppe's re-badged counterpart : Hoppe's Elite foam aerosol
Excellent product uses ammonia as a salt (Ammonium Oleate, I think) but it's got no odor and works well
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I have a small bottle (maybe 1.5 oz) with 1/2 ammonia 1/2 water along with a Swiss
cleaning kit that has a sectional cleaning rod. Just squirt some of the ammonia on a cleaning patch, run the patch through the bore. Then run a dry patch through. When I get home I clean the rifle normally. Never had a problem.