My new to me 91/30

[rhood]

Pick it up on Friday got it all clean

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[Aragorn243]

Be careful, they tend to multiply once one finds its way into the home.

[A. F Medic]

There is a story about the brass collar on the 91/30, but I forgot it! I have one with the brass collar also.

[Aragorn243]

I don't know so much about a story, they should be painted black, usually are but are also usually chipped and when the brass shows, people tend to remove the paint. Looks nice that's for sure. The steel ones are also usually painted black rather than blued or if blued they weren't reblued during the refurb process. I like that symbol before the serial number. Signifies the run if I'm not mistaken but haven't seen one before.

[mdrim13]

Your rifle was produced in 1939 as im sure you are well aware. The small "r" behind the date is the russian word "god." The russian work "god" has a different meaning than our version of it. Its transation is to english would be the word "year." It has nothing to do with the big man as they were athiests. Just an FYI as it is often misunderstood, espically with info out there not being the best. The number engraved on the area where the bolt handle rests is not original to the rifle. Is is a requirement for importation as cryllic (russian) letters are not allowed in serial numbers in this part of the world. There will also be a matching engraving somewhere elso on the rifle stating importer, country of orgin and caliber. All serial numbers appear to match, as far as I can tell. The bolt body, magizine floor plate, butplate and reciever ring are all be numbered, this is correct. The stock may or may not be numbered. If it is it will be behind the butplate and will most likely be in paint. The stock stamping (Box with diagonal line) indicates a wook refinish/rework. A box with a verticle/horizontal line would indicate metal rework/refinish, it is seen under the date and above the serial number on your rifle. Your rifle was prodeced at the Izhevsk Arsenal. The stamping for this is a small arrow pointing up inside of a triangle. You can see this under the serial number. It should be on every part as well. Some parts may have the same arrow inside of a five point star, this wuld be Tula Arsenal. A matched bayonet is a plus and an oddity. I would make sure to keep it around. Looks like a nice overall rifle.

PS: It started out with a Mosin Nagant 91/30 with me in 2007, I now have an M1 Garand, an M1 Carbine, K98, WASR-10(AK), No1 MkI** Enfield, No4 Enfield, Mosin Nagant M44 and M38 Carcano. My advice to the new collector: put your wallet in the safe with the guns, you wont buy near as much.

mdrim13

[kar98k]

"A matched bayonet is a plus and an oddity. "

eh, not really. a lot of the time, this was done by importers when they had crates of unnumbered bayonets with the rifles.

[Rob]

Very nice
Mosins are fun to collect they are plentiful and affordable. I have a standard round 91/30 a M38 and a Finn M39

[mdrim13]

"A matched bayonet is a plus and an oddity. "

eh, not really. a lot of the time, this was done by importers when they had crates of unnumbered bayonets with the rifles.

I doubt this is the case considering the earlier and stranger crylic prefix to the serial number. The blueing is not affected by the serial number stamping so it appears to to have been stamped before the blueing was applied. It is not likely that the importer would have reblued bayonetes to cover up serial nember stampings on a $100.00 rifle. Most nagants come into the importer with matching bayonets but they are carelessly tossed into a bin and assembeled into accessory packs later on. I would say it it is odd to have a matching bayonet

mdrim13

[A. F Medic]

My brass fittings actually had what looked like wax paper glued on to them. They were already scraped up so I finished the deal. I have seen black ones though. Thanks!

[kar98k]

I doubt this is the case considering the earlier and stranger crylic prefix to the serial number. The blueing is not affected by the serial number stamping so it appears to to have been stamped before the blueing was applied. It is not likely that the importer would have reblued bayonetes to cover up serial nember stampings on a $100.00 rifle. Most nagants come into the importer with matching bayonets but they are carelessly tossed into a bin and assembeled into accessory packs later on. I would say it it is odd to have a matching bayonet

i have a matching bayonet/91/30 combo. it's just really not easy to keep a bayonet and rifle together, especially when they've seen combat, over such a long time. and there is no prefix on the bayonet, just numbers. if it were truly matching, the prefix would appear on the bayonet as well.